[PD] Musical notation object on Pd

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 10 22:26:19 CET 2010

--- On Wed, 11/10/10, João Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: João Pais <jmmmpais at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Musical notation object on Pd
> To: "patko" <colet.patrice at free.fr>
> Cc: "pd-list" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 12:55 PM
> > we can have a few examples in
> here:
> > 
> > http://james-ingram-act-two.de/stockhausen/stockhausenScores.html
> ah, didn't know he had these examples, weren't there last
> time I visited
> this site.
> > particulary Xi for flûte, http://james-ingram-act-two.de/stockhausen/Xi/sxia1l.html
> > 
> > he use exactly the same notation shown in your preview
> picture, thank you for showing it.
> > 
> > Those are samples of papers written by the master, but
> the pieces I played at school contained also explanations
> about symbols used all along the scores,
> > maybe be that's why I confused the issue by saying he
> used his own standard.
> master indeed, but not about microtonal music or notation.
> these pieces I
> don't know (am not very interested in the Licht period),
> and if you look
> at the Licht formula
> (http://www.analogartsensemble.net/blog/licht_superformula.jpg),
> it's
> basically chromatic. The Klang cycle I also don't know, it
> can be that
> there are more microtonal works there.
> In current day notation there are also huge amounts of
> symbols for all
> kinds of actions (and as with pitch notation, some
> composers share
> symbols, other decide to make new ones), but that's not
> important for this
> discussion.
> >  Also, how a composer would do when he need to
> build his own scale, from empiric harmonic rules?
> > Let me try to explain, music composition has evolved a
> certain way technically that one composer could build up a
> scale for each different piece he makes.
> > How could he write scores that could be read by any
> genuine musician any time?
> [warning for anyone else, the rest of the paragraph has
> nothing to do with
> Pd]
> I'm going backwards on the sentences:
> Absolutely, he can't (and that can be a good thing). How do
> you know how a
> staccato in a Beethoven piano sonata really sounds?

Do you mean "how a staccato in a Beethoven sonata 
sounded to an audience member listening to the composer himself play 
it"?  Because I don't at all understand what it means to say 
what a notated piece of music "really" sounds like.



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