[PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Tue Dec 7 00:56:52 CET 2010


Its not "illegal" because its a not about laws, but rather copyright  
licenses, which is more like contracts, i.e. agreements between  
private parties.

Currently pidip is in a state where the two licenses conflict  
irreconcilably.  So if you use pidip under Yves' license, you could be  
sued by the EffecTV copyright holder.  Or if you use it under the GPL  
from EffecTV, you could be sued by the PiDiP copyright holder.

.hc

On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

> illegal where? Globally?
> What of fair use?
> ________________________________________
> From: Mathieu Bouchard [matju at artengine.ca]
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:59 AM
> To: Pagano, Patrick
> Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner; ydegoyon at gmail.com; pd-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd- 
> pidip into Debian
>
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>
>> So what does this really mean? We have to go back to building pidip  
>> from
>> source if we want to use it? has it changed that much from when it  
>> was
>> released? I am just starting to get students interested in learning
>> these objects and would like to continue
>
> Actually, you don't have the right to use PiDiP, and no-one has the  
> right
> to. It's illegal, and it's been like that for at least five years.
>
>> Why is there this animosity?
>
> Because there is a genuine legal problem, and it's been there for at  
> least
> five years, but for some people, it has somehow become more obvious  
> now,
> because the Degoyon clause just expanded a lot, though it was already
> just as illegal in 2005.
>
>   
> _______________________________________________________________________
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