[PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 (stable + nightly) tiny fonts?

Fri Dec 10 19:30:18 CET 2010

Hi Hans & Andras,

Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.

Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish
certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5

Note I have pd-vanilla (puredata) installed from the lucid repos also.
It looks fine, and since I removed 8.4, and only 8.5 is installed,
vanilla must be using 8.5.

To check if its some weird nvidia thing, I'm going to boot up in the
live DVD and see if pd-extended still looks tiny.

Thanks for the debugging suggestions all.

.b.

On 10-12-10 07:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5".  That's
> what Pd uses.  wish could be pointing to wish8.4
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
> 
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in
>> the path.
>>
>> /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
>>
>> I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see
>> small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even
>> the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
>>
>> So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little
>> wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
>>
>> Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid
>> machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
>>
>> I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like
>> I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
>>
>> I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
>>
>> .b.
>>
>> On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>> If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is
>>> not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name.  Font
>>> names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Hans,
>>>>
>>>> I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled
>>>> pd-extended.
>>>>
>>>> No change in font size.
>>>>
>>>> I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still
>>>> no change.
>>>>
>>>> I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package
>>>> in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
>>>>
>>>> I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi
>>>> is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
>>>>
>>>> What else can I try?
>>>>
>>>> An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the
>>>> font
>>>> size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the
>>>> width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other
>>>> font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
>>>>
>>>> I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit!
>>>> Much has changed. :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>>> On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Start here for debugging it:
>>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Hans and all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the
>>>>>> corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly
>>>>>> build.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It
>>>>>> looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since
>>>>>> nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi
>>>>>> setting
>>>>>> in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've
>>>>>> attached a screenshot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> B. Bogart
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - path and other menus are now in normal size again.
>>>>>>>> - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should be fixed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that
>>>>>>>> does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> really understand it from this description.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> João
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2!  Fixed
>>>>>>>>> since 0.42.5-rc1:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
>>>>>>>>> pidip (Carbon)
>>>>>>>>> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
>>>>>>>>> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4,
>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>> are some highlights:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
>>>>>>>>> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
>>>>>>>>> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page:
>>>>>>>>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Downloading
>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows:
>>>>>>>>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can get the source and build it yourself here:
>>>>>>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>> <small-font-pd-extended-#2.png><tk_likes_dejavu.png>
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