[PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 (stable + nightly) tiny fonts?

Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 10 20:45:23 CET 2010


just a question: how to change the default font for tk/tcl?

2010/12/10 B. Bogart <ben at ekran.org>:
> Hi Hans & Andras,
>
> Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.
>
> Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish
> certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5
>
> Note I have pd-vanilla (puredata) installed from the lucid repos also.
> It looks fine, and since I removed 8.4, and only 8.5 is installed,
> vanilla must be using 8.5.
>
> To check if its some weird nvidia thing, I'm going to boot up in the
> live DVD and see if pd-extended still looks tiny.
>
> Thanks for the debugging suggestions all.
>
> .b.
>
> On 10-12-10 07:52 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> try running your Tk font test with only "wish" not "wish8.5".  That's
>> what Pd uses.  wish could be pointing to wish8.4
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2010, at 1:53 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> Now I'm really confused. I tried -verbose and it shows the following in
>>> the path.
>>>
>>> /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/
>>>
>>> I rechecked the installation of the recommended fonts (see
>>> small-font-pd-extended-#2.png) and verified the command line flags. Even
>>> the font size does not change. Tk scaling is 1.2508464142813174.
>>>
>>> So maybe tk is not reading the fonts for some reason, so I did a little
>>> wish8.5 test, presented in tk_likes_dejavu.png.
>>>
>>> Am I the only one trying to use pd-extended 0.42-5 on a 64bit lucid
>>> machine with nvidia proprietary drivers?
>>>
>>> I tried switching to "nv" or "nouveau" but X does not start, looks like
>>> I'd have to remove the proprietary drivers just to test.
>>>
>>> I'll try it on my lucid live DVD when I get a chance.
>>>
>>> .b.
>>>
>>> On 10-12-09 07:46 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If -font-face doesn't change the font, then the font you asked for is
>>>> not installed correctly, or there is a typo in the font name.  Font
>>>> names are case-sensitive, IIRC.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:52 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Hans,
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed those fonts, removed tcl8.4 (leaving 8.5) and reinstalled
>>>>> pd-extended.
>>>>>
>>>>> No change in font size.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also tried starting pd-extended with the -font-face flags, and still
>>>>> no change.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also switched from the binary on puredata to the pd-extended package
>>>>> in the ubuntu repo, which is version 0.42.5-3.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also confirmed in xfce and in the nvidia settings that my screen dpi
>>>>> is 96, and a 96 pixel wide square is indeed 1in on screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> What else can I try?
>>>>>
>>>>> An interesting note, If I open the 'about PD' patch, and change the
>>>>> font
>>>>> size, 10 and 12 point choices change only the height of the font, the
>>>>> width stays constant between them. Both x and y change for the other
>>>>> font size choices. I can make a screenshot if that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to say its great to have pd-extended in the repos! and 64 bit!
>>>>> Much has changed. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> B.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10-12-07 03:34 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Start here for debugging it:
>>>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 15:22 -0800, B. Bogart wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Hans and all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading too many books and not doing much PD, I'm back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm now running on an ubuntu64 lucid installation, and using the
>>>>>>> corresponding pd-extended package. I also tried yesterdays nightly
>>>>>>> build.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both versions show object and console text in a super small font. It
>>>>>>> looks like 8 or 9 point. I thought it may be the dpi setting (since
>>>>>>> nvidia cards seems to mess with that a bit) but changing the dpi
>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>> in xfce font settings appears to make no difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also the object boxes are bigger than needed for the text size. I've
>>>>>>> attached a screenshot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> B. Bogart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10-06-14 06:25 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:56 AM, João Pais wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> from testing 5m with windows (in a hurry):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - path and other menus are now in normal size again.
>>>>>>>>> - properties menu for the guis/gop is still with small font size
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should be fixed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - if you have a canvas with dynamic label inside a GOP, the label
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> appear in a differente place in the main patch (I have a patch that
>>>>>>>>> does this, but can't put it in now, it's too complicated)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds like this is worth a bug report with an example patch, I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> really understand it from this description.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> João
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course we missed somethings, so now we have 0.42.5-rc2!  Fixed
>>>>>>>>>> since 0.42.5-rc1:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * 64-bit builds on Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>> * 64-bit build on Mac OS X 10.6/Snow Leopard, minus Gem, hid, and
>>>>>>>>>> pidip (Carbon)
>>>>>>>>>> * fixed [plugin~] crashes, now also builds on Mac OS X and Windows
>>>>>>>>>> * Pd-extended shows in the GNOME menus again
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are of course many bug fixes and additions since 0.41.4,
>>>>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>>>>> are some highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * fixing Graph-On-Parent GUI bugs
>>>>>>>>>> * complete 64-bit support for GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>>> * full support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard (32-bit)
>>>>>>>>>> * a brand new Help Browser that shows all installed libraries
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For more details, check the notes on the release wiki page:
>>>>>>>>>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can download builds for Debian, Mac OS X, Ubuntu, and Windows:
>>>>>>>>>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can get the source and build it yourself here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>> <small-font-pd-extended-#2.png><tk_likes_dejavu.png>
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