[PD] pmpd maintainer; WAS Re: libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

cyrille henry ch at chnry.net
Tue Dec 14 16:48:05 CET 2010



Le 14/12/2010 16:22, ydegoyon at gmail.com a écrit :
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> yeh but me i want my stuff out of this
i really don't care about your stuff.
but since you included me in this discussion, i have to say that i don't understand your point.
you use to release your code under GPL.
the only point of the gpl is allowing this.
you should consider a non-free licence for your code if you don't want anyone to modify it without your consent.


>
> + it's totally useless to speak with this guy,
> he said he worked with Tom Schouten on pdp
> but pdp is not included in pd-extended
i don't see any contradiction here.



> pd-extended is shit anyway,
i personally don't use pd-extended. I have no plan to use it in the future, and no plan to develop it.

but since i'm an honest person, i'll say that pd'extended is not for me.
i think saying that it's shit without any argument is largely exaggerated and can be seen as very offending.
  
> yo paso
cheers,
Cyrille

>
> saludos,
> sevy
>
> cyrille henry wrote:
>> hello Yves,
>>
>> i feel a bit concerned because you mention pmpd.
>>
>> I don't understand the problem about hans being pmpd maintainer.
>> i can't find anything saying that a maintainer should be the author of
>> a lib.
>> the pmpd lib distributed with pd-extended clearly specify that's i'm
>> the author of this lib.
>>
>> who's using other people work?
>> well, there is a lot of answers to this question.
>> -pd user (and developer) are using miller work
>> -pd-extended user are using hans work
>> -pmpd user are using my work
>> -i'm using pmpd users to promote my work
>> -i'm using hans work to promote pmpd
>> -i'm using miller (and other) work everyday
>> -hans is using pmpd to have more happy pd-extended user
>> -etc
>>
>> lot's of people are using other people work.
>> i'm using miller, hans and pd users lot's more than hans is using me.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is some short extract of the pmpd licence :
>>
>> "1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's
>>
>> source code as you receive it [...]"
>> "2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion
>>
>> of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and
>>
>> distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1
>>
>> above [...]"
>> "3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
>>
>> under Section 2 [...])"
>>
>> Reading it, you'll understand that anyone could be pmpd maintainer
>> without other authorisation.
>>
>> Cyrille
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 14/12/2010 05:45, ydegoyon at gmail.com a écrit :
>>> you maintain unauthorized ( free version, if free ever meant anything )
>>> and pmpd ?
>>>
>>> wow, if that's not using other people's work, i dunno what
>>> fresh hell is this...
>>>
>>> very good takeover,
>>> very good semester result,
>>> you can apply for the employee of the month
>>>
>>> ydegoyon at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> that's really crazy what you did here :
>>>>
>>>> http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/unauthorized
>>>>
>>>> sorry i haven't seen any recent case of exploitation
>>>> that reaches that level
>>>>
>>>> respect!
>>>>
>>>> sevy
>>>>
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