[PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 21 00:51:00 CET 2011



--- On Sun, 2/20/11, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca> wrote:

> From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
> Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at eds.org>, pd-list at iem.at
> Date: Sunday, February 20, 2011, 11:31 PM
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes
> wrote:
> 
> > I don't understand this process.  I understand
> the order, but why, for
> > example, does
> > [./sigmund~] create an instance of the sigmund~
> class?
> 
> It's not like shell commands : even relative names that
> contain slashes are looked for in the -path. In that sense,
> it's more like gcc's -I options (including C_INCLUDE_PATH,
> CPLUS_INCLUDE_PATH and the implicit /usr/include and
> stuff).

I'm only familiar with the shell usage.  I'm having trouble seeing the 
benefit of how Pd does it-- seems like it renders "./" pretty much 
meaningless, and "../" means "search the parent directory of every 
dir in the path", which seems like something one would rarely do.  Am I 
misunderstanding something?

> 
> >> How can those classes affect those users ? I
> mean, how can
> >> the collection of pd-extended classes act like a
> haze, when
> >> the users don't look at a list of 2000 classes ?
> > Well if you use Pd Vanilla and want to find an object
> that does something,
> > you look for it, find it (or not), and start using
> it.
> 
> But I mean, if you look at Miller's index while in
> Pd-extended, you only see the list of the classes that are
> in Vanilla. It's not like the 2345 other classes are
> actively bugging you in this context. It's a completely
> different game than going in the "5.reference" folder. You
> don't need to install Vanilla to benefit from Miller's help
> files.
> 
> > Also, keep in mind that currently it's hard to ask Pd
> Extended
> > to show you all the externals that do the thing you
> want to do, and get
> > back a meaningful answer.
> 
> You mean you can ask it...? (you mean 43 ?)
> 
> > * and of course you right-click to see what library it
> is actually in but Pd's search party comes back with very
> bad news: "Sorry, ma'am, but your child never even
> existed..."
> 
> Which error message do you actually mean ?
> 
> 
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