[PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen "Kiosk audio" experiments

ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2010 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 14 20:46:07 CEST 2011


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8Uav7EPlQ

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:03 PM, ALAN BROOKER
<alan.brooker2010 at gmail.com> wrote:
> hmmm....What is the context of the Musilini video?
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton <lsutton at libero.it> wrote:
>> As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of
>> words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the
>> original poster might shed a little light on this.
>>
>> Pagano, Patrick wrote:
>>> I agree that Mussolini should not be a "favorite" but it's simply a way to access files for later recall.
>> Mhh, well.. I think "favourite" has a very precise meaning, using
>> favourite as bookmark seems strange.
>>> On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, "Husk 00" <husk00 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras <martindupras at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Husk,
>>>> Hi Martin
>>>>> First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post
>>>>> than Simon's, just so that you know.
>> I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to
>> consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to
>> "Mussoini" here in Italy, especially these days.
>>
>>> [...]
>>>>> I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally
>>>>> and I can vouch for him.
>> Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :)
>>>>> The Mussolini video is not something that he
>>>>> posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam
>>>>> from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of
>>>>> media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need
>>>>> to jump to conclusions.
>> Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on
>> "favourite" - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my
>> simpathy).
>> That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit
>> having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly)
>> pro-fascism, pro fascist "revisionism" (the intent of historically
>> softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way.
>>>> I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that.
>>>> See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this
>>>> stange days in Italy.
>> @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the
>> same way (I am) with all the "La storia di Mussolini", "La storia del
>> fascismo" and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with
>> large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with.
>>>> BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in
>>>> my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right?
>> See above.
>>>>> My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him
>>>>> privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list.
>>>> I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and
>>>> collective discussions (and conflicts too)
>> Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go
>> back to our Pd-ing :)
>>
>> Lorenzo.
>>>> cheers
>>>> husk
>>>>
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>>>>
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