[PD] Switch from PureData!

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Sat May 14 22:21:55 CEST 2011

--- On Wed, 5/11/11, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca> wrote:

> From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Switch from PureData!
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Derek Holzer" <derek at umatic.nl>, pd-list at iem.at
> Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 12:53 AM
> On Mon, 2 May 2011, Jonathan Wilkes
> wrote:
> > Now it's perfectly fine that it shows one example that
> gives the strengths of supercollider and a completely
> different example for the strengths of pure data. But it
> certainly begs the question
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

I meant "raises the question"

> > what each example would look like in the other
> enviroment.
> > So: what's the simplest way to implement that
> supercollider example above using pure data? Using nqpoly?
> Dynamic patching? Is there a #many~ in GF? Etc.
> [#many] is designed to be used for GUI objects. There's
> nothing preventing it from being used for non-GUI objects,
> except that it currently requires objects that support the
> 'receive' and 'send' methods, for setting receive-symbols
> and send-symbols, and that is pretty much limited to the
> IEMGUI family, currently.
> Would [#many~]'s components have signal-outlets,
> signal-inlets, or both ? Would the grid-input ever
> represent the right-inlet configurations of N objects, if
> those objects each have a left-inlet common signal input ?
> etc. I think that there would be several different useful
> combinations of [#many]-style concepts with signals.
> You can process multiple channels using a single chain
> terminated by [#to~], without dynamic patching and perhaps
> even faster than Pd's DSP, but it requires doing that using
> only GridFlow objects, because in the GridFlow framework,
> there's a lot of stuff that compute 1 channel or N channels
> in the same manner, without any copy-paste. But there's no
> ready-to-use equivalent of [osc~] made with grids... you'd
> have to build one by yourself, as an abstraction.

Do you have an example other than #to~-help.pd that I can look at?


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