[PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Thu Jul 7 10:17:45 CEST 2011

Sorry Pierre! I’m surprised that it didn’t work. It's surely working here.
But then again you might have the arduino set up differently than I do and
something else might interfere with the (replaced) numbers.

Try to check out how the numbers change before they go into the
[mapping/debytemask] by sending them to [print]. They shouldn't produce
lists that start with 0 or 1 or 2 or 3 as far as I recall.

Ingo

________________________________________
Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 20:48
An: Ingo
Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner; pd-list at iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Ok, i replaced mapping/debytemask and the rest as you suggested, but it
didn't work. Then i replaced 0 and 1 in the debyte object by 8 and 9, to no
avail. 

I'm afraid I can't find a fix alone, as i have no idea what the incoming
data from the board looks like. 

Anyway, thanks for helping me. 

Pierre
2011/7/6 Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com>
It should be here:

[arduino] / [pd convert_to_symbolic_commands] / [pd digital messages] /
[mapping/debytemask]

I was using the Pduino-0.5beta8 arduino-test.pd

Ingo

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Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 19:01
An: Ingo
Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner; pd-list at iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad

Thank you Ingo. Unfortunately I can't even locate the mapping/debytemask
object to be replaced...

Pierre
2011/7/6 Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com>
I assume that the error might be somehow caused by the fact that the digital
pins are not offset by two as it should be the case since pin 0 & 1 ought to
be handled separately from the rest of the digital ins.

BTW the debyte patch should replace [mapping/debytemask] plus the following
message boxes and the [unpack float float] object.

Ingo

> It looks like I changed pin 8 and 9 to be output as pin 0 and 1 for some
> reason. You should change the two message boxes at the left from
>
> [0 $1(  [1 $1(  to
>
> [8 $1(  [9 $1(
>
> to get the correct pin numbering.
>
> Ingo
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Ingo [mailto:ingo at miamiwave.com]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 05:46
> > An: 'Pierre Massat'; 'Hans-Christoph Steiner'
> > Cc: 'Ingo'; pd-list at iem.at
> > Betreff: AW: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
> >
> > > Please tell me that all hope is not lost ...
> >
> >
> > I looked it up and I found my fix. The errors are getting obvious here:
> >
> > Arduino / convert_to_symbolic_commands / digital messages / debyte
> >
> > If you replace “debyte” with this patch “pd debyte” it should work
> > although
> > I am not sure if pins higher than 9 were taken care of.
> > If the bytes higher than 9 are still causing problems you might have to
> > set
> > the first moses to a higher number like 8 or so.
> > I am not sure if it can interfere with anything else and I am also not
> > sure
> > if it works with boards other than Diecimila and Duemilanove.
> >
> > The problem is not “debyte” – it’s the numbers coming in that just get
> > fixed
> > with this workaround!
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
> > #N canvas 11 14 450 290 10;
> > #N canvas 252 114 541 378 debyte 0;
> > #X obj 32 161 & 1;
> > #X obj 82 161 & 2;
> > #X obj 162 345 outlet;
> > #X obj 32 181 change;
> > #X obj 82 181 change;
> > #X obj 32 20 inlet;
> > #X obj 264 181 change;
> > #X obj 315 181 change;
> > #X obj 366 181 change;
> > #X obj 417 181 change;
> > #X obj 162 181 change;
> > #X obj 213 181 change;
> > #X msg 32 221 0 \$1;
> > #X msg 82 221 1 \$1;
> > #X msg 162 221 2 \$1;
> > #X msg 213 221 3 \$1;
> > #X msg 264 221 4 \$1;
> > #X msg 315 221 5 \$1;
> > #X msg 366 221 6 \$1;
> > #X msg 417 221 7 \$1;
> > #X obj 162 308 unpack;
> > #X obj 205 345 outlet;
> > #X obj 162 161 & 4;
> > #X obj 213 160 & 8;
> > #X obj 264 161 & 16;
> > #X obj 32 201 == 1;
> > #X obj 82 201 == 2;
> > #X obj 162 201 == 4;
> > #X obj 213 201 == 8;
> > #X obj 264 201 == 16;
> > #X obj 315 201 == 32;
> > #X obj 315 160 & 32;
> > #X obj 366 201 == 64;
> > #X obj 417 201 == 128;
> > #X obj 366 161 & 64;
> > #X obj 417 160 & 128;
> > #X obj 32 41 moses 4;
> > #X obj 162 104 trigger float float float float float float;
> > #X obj 71 61 moses 253;
> > #X connect 0 0 3 0;
> > #X connect 1 0 4 0;
> > #X connect 3 0 25 0;
> > #X connect 4 0 26 0;
> > #X connect 5 0 36 0;
> > #X connect 6 0 29 0;
> > #X connect 7 0 30 0;
> > #X connect 8 0 32 0;
> > #X connect 9 0 33 0;
> > #X connect 10 0 27 0;
> > #X connect 11 0 28 0;
> > #X connect 12 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 13 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 14 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 15 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 16 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 17 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 18 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 19 0 20 0;
> > #X connect 20 0 2 0;
> > #X connect 20 1 21 0;
> > #X connect 22 0 10 0;
> > #X connect 23 0 11 0;
> > #X connect 24 0 6 0;
> > #X connect 25 0 12 0;
> > #X connect 26 0 13 0;
> > #X connect 27 0 14 0;
> > #X connect 28 0 15 0;
> > #X connect 29 0 16 0;
> > #X connect 30 0 17 0;
> > #X connect 31 0 7 0;
> > #X connect 32 0 18 0;
> > #X connect 33 0 19 0;
> > #X connect 34 0 8 0;
> > #X connect 35 0 9 0;
> > #X connect 36 0 0 0;
> > #X connect 36 0 1 0;
> > #X connect 36 1 38 0;
> > #X connect 37 0 22 0;
> > #X connect 37 1 23 0;
> > #X connect 37 2 24 0;
> > #X connect 37 3 31 0;
> > #X connect 37 4 34 0;
> > #X connect 37 5 35 0;
> > #X connect 38 0 37 0;
> > #X connect 38 1 0 0;
> > #X connect 38 1 1 0;
> > #X restore 168 99 pd debyte;
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 22:23
> > An: Hans-Christoph Steiner
> > Cc: Ingo; pd-list at iem.at
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
> >
> > You tried with your "StandardFirmata", to no avail.
> >
> > Please tell me that all hope is not lost, doc...
> >
> > :Pierre
> > 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat <pimassat at gmail.com>
> > Should I try to upload a older firmata?
> >
> > :Pierre
> >
> > 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> >
> > The Uno board was troublesome back when I first tried it, but that was a
> > while ago.  I didn't make that StandardFirmata_2_2_for_Uno_0_3 firmware,
> > so
> > I don't know what changes it has.  Is anyone having these problems on
> > boards
> > older than an Uno?
> >
> > .hc
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2011, at 3:32 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
> >
> >
> > It makes no difference at all.
> >
> > Here's what happens :
> > Inputs 2 through 7 work fine.
> > Inputs 8 and 9 work fine.
> >
> > But if i use any of the inputs within the 2-7 group, and then use any
> > input
> > of the second group (8 and 9), i have to trigger the later twice before
> i
> > can see something is happening.
> >
> > It goes like this :
> > (in group 2 to 7)
> > First guy : "Pushed button 3."
> > Second guy (Pd) : "Ok, pushed button 3."
> > First guy : "Pushed button 7."
> > Second guy : "K, you pushed button 7."
> > First guy : "Pushed button 8."
> > Second guy : "Come again?"
> > First guy : "PUSHED BUTTON 8!"
> > Second guy : "Oh, yeah, button 8..."
> > First guy ; "Pushed button 3."
> > Second guy : "I'm sorry, what button?"
> > First guy : "BUTTON 3!!"
> > Second guy : "Yep, button 3.
> >
> > I hope it is clear now what the problem is.
> >
> > Pierre
> > 2011/7/5 Pierre Massat <pimassat at gmail.com>
> > Ok, I checked in Windows XP, with a custom sketch, and all of my inputs
> > work
> > flawlessly.
> > (The IDE seem to work much better in Windows than in Linux btw).
> >
> > So the problem has to be somewhere between firmata and pduino.
> >
> > I will try with the latest pduino...
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > 2011/7/5 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> >
> > It would good to nail down the source of this and fix it.  Which version
> > of
> > Firmata are you using? Which firmware?  Also, there was a bug like that
> a
> > while back that was fixed, so make sure you have the latest Pd patch
> too:
> >
> > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino
> >
> > .hc
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ingo wrote:
> >
> > I fixed it by replacing the mapping object by a custom patch which deals
> > with the first two switches seperately.
> > I’ll look it up tomorrow and send you my fix.
> >
> > >And where does the problem lie? In the board, firmata, or pduino?
> >
> > It suppose fermata since the wrong numbers arrive at pduino.
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 20:41
> > An: Ingo Scherzinger
> > Cc: Ingo Scherzinger
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
> >
> > Can we fix that??
> >
> > Pierre
> > 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger <ingo at fixitinthemix.de>
> > I happens when switching from the first two switches to the others
> within
> > a
> > 8-bit block. Since the block has the wrong header it will ignore the
> "on"
> > message and send the first "off". So you have to press the button twice.
> > Once pressed it works until you press another button within that block
> and
> > return to the first one.
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: Pierre Massat [mailto:pimassat at gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:56
> > An: Ingo Scherzinger
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
> >
> > Glad to know i'm not the only one with this problem! Sorry for starting
> a
> > new thread.
> > I have problems with inputs 8 and 9, or 9 and 10 (the first two on the
> > second digital input socket).
> >
> > Pierre
> > 2011/7/5 Ingo Scherzinger <ingo at miamiwave.com>
> > This is the same problem I had described several times before. There is
> an
> > error in the 8-bit block where the digital ins 2+3 are coming in. It can
> > be
> > traced somewhere in the mapping section. I'll try to finally look it up
> > tomorrow.
> >
> > Ingo
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: pd-list-bounces at iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces at iem.at] Im Auftrag
> von
> > Pierre Massat
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2011 19:36
> > An: pd-list
> > Betreff: [PD] Arduino (is drivin me mad
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I apologie if this is off-topic. Please let me know if you think it is.
> >
> > I have been working on my arduino-based pedal, and im faced with a
> > peculiar
> > problem right now. I'm using 8 digital inputs ( 6 on the first socket of
> > the
> > board, inputs 2 through 8, and 2 on the second digital socket, inputs 9
> > and
> > 10). The first 6 inputs work perfectly, but when i want to use any of
> the
> > last two inputs (9 and 10), i have to trigger them twice before they
> start
> > working. Then i'm faced with the exact same problem when i get back to
> the
> > first 6 inputs. I am pretty sure that i used the very same wiring for
> all
> > 8
> > inputs.
> >
> > So... I thought that maybe this could be a problem with firmata or
> pduino
> > (no offense, Hans!). I have been spending the last hour trying to write
> a
> > simple program in the arduino software in order to print in serial
> monitor
> > the values of my digital inputs.
> >
> > Now my question... Is the arduino software just really really bad? Or
> was
> > it
> > just not designed to work on an ubuntu machine? It is randomly very slow
> > at
> > start-up, it randomly disables the serial port menu in Tools, it
> randomly
> > decides to prevent me from uploading the program in the board, or warns
> me
> > that serial port dev/ttyACM0 is already in use, or can't be found. The
> > fact
> > that i unplug and replug the board, or change the usb port, or restart
> the
> > software doesn't seem to make any difference.
> >
> > This is beginning to look more like witchcraft than computer science to
> > me.
> >
> > Please help me, or i'll teach it how to fly out my window.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Pierre
> >
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