[PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features

[Jonathan Wilkes]

--- On Mon, 7/11/11, Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> From: Martin Peach <martin.peach at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 updates: lots of new editing features
> To: "Mathieu Bouchard" <matju at artengine.ca>
> Cc: "pd-list" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:15 PM
> On 2011-07-11 13:45, Mathieu Bouchard
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Jul 2011, Martin Peach wrote:
> >> On 2011-07-11 12:06, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >>> But I'm not sure where to store the tooltip
> string...
> >> 
> >> Not sure if that's what you mean, but in max the
> assist method
> >> receives a number corresponding to the inlet or
> outlet and returns a
> >> pointer to the appropriate string, so the string
> is already stored
> >> somewhere in the memory allocated to the object.
> > 
> > Not necessarily : the assist-method could be storing
> the data anywhere,
> > or generating it on-the-fly from whatever.
> > 
> 
> OK, but the object is responsible for knowing where it is,
> not Pd.
> If the string is generated on-the-fly or stored elsewhere
> the object will have allocated the memory for it.
> 
> > In theory, tooltip strings could be stored in
> something at the
> > class-level instead of the object-level, just like
> methods called at the
> > object-level refer to a method-table stored at the
> class-level.
> > 
> 
> That is indeed what happens: a shared library has a section
> for strings (or "data"). Unless it is generating them
> on-the-fly, each instance of the class will refer to the
> same location in memory for its strings.
> 
> > But Pd doesn't allow extending struct t_class by
> externals, and it
> > doesn't have a tooltip field (except Günter's tooltip
> diff included a
> > field for storing a symbol containing the text of the
> left-inlet's
> > text... and only that).
> > 
> 
> I don't see a need to extend any structs, Pd just needs to
> call an object's assist method whenever the mouse is
> hovering over one of its inlet/outlets, and display the
> returned string inside a box. If there is no assist method,
> then Pd would use a default string from its own class,
> depending on what types were registered to that inlet/outlet
> at creation time.

Well in that case, I don't see any need whatsoever for an "assist" method.  Just have pd lookup the methods and display them.  If one needs more information than that, the help patch is just two clicks away.

> 
> Martin
> 
> 
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