[PD] notes/questions from a beginner

[Jonathan Wilkes]

1 - right.  You can't fix this without refactoring the canvas_motion stuff in g_editor.c.  I'm still not sure why these events are handled in c and not with tk bindings.


2 - There isn't a key combination that will delete it (and doesn't cmd-Backspace just delete the previous word anyway?).  The best would be to have <ctrl-a> select all text, then you could just do <ctrl-a> and backspace.

3 - Hm, I never thought about that one.  Btw- you also can't connect an object's outlet to one of its inlets with the mouse (though you can do it in other ways).

4 - Nope.  There are lots of ways this could be improved. (Shift-drag for bounding box around wires instead of boxes, then Backspace, would be one way-- off the top of my head.)  Elegant patch editing is not currently a part of Pd-- even the "Autopatch" feature in the "Edit" menu assumes that all objects only have a single inlet and a signal outlet.


5 - click in runmode (but there isn't any visual feedback).

6 - I guess you could add a key binding, but right-click and choose "Help" seems perfectly fine to me.

-Jonathan


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>From: Stephen Lavelle <analytic at gmail.com>
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>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:16 AM
>Subject: [PD] notes/questions from a beginner
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>I've tried getting into around with pd a couple of times before, this is my first concerted time.  I've worked with a bunch of flow-charty programming environments in the past (Unreal Engine's kismet is the slickest I've come across - http://odedge.com/forums/ut3_kismet_04.jpg ) - pure data is taking a bit of getting used to (most of this is due to the fact that it does special things, some things feel a bit more avoidable, other things feel frivolously subjective :P ).  Here're some of the things that stuck out for me (some might be due to ignorance on my part, I'd love to have things cleared up :) ):
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>1 - Inlets/outlets too small for me to accurately click on (touchpad) - checking on pd-dev, they can be visually reskinned, but their actual clickable size can't be changed.  [ so I guess this one has been responded to, but might as well repeat it ]
>2 - If I have an object selected (that's to say pressing buttons to edit text in it) I can't find any key-combination that will delete it - I have to deselect it, then press the mouse down on it, then, while holding the mouse button down, press backspace? (this is an uncomfortable manipulation on a laptop w/ touchpad) - on OSX at least, a shortcut like cmd+backspace would be quite idiomatic for this.
>3 - I can drag lines from outlets to inlets, but not from inlets to outlets.
>4 - is there a shortcut for deleting connections?  something like ctrl+click would save me a lot of time.
>5 - is there a way to type numbers directly into a number box? clicking+dragging, or pumping them in via a message, doesn't feel good to me.
>6 - shortcut for opening help of selected item would be...convenient for me
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>I'm still working through the tutorials, and am enjoying the experience overall :)
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