[PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets

[Joe White]

Thought I'd just mention this as it seems to be on a similar topic.

For fun I was making a GUI interface for OSX with ZenGarden, a Pd runtime
library.

https://github.com/joewhite4/Zeng

It's not fully functional yet but you can open patches and mess around with
objects.

Just thought it might be of interest.

Cheers,
Joe

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> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 02:19:20 +0200
> From: Andr?s Mur?nyi <muranyia at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-dev] tkwidgets
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> Yeah and afaiu this is exactly the job that HC just started (see his
> announcement below).
> Yvan: in my simple understanding it goes like this: 1. getting rid of
> tcl-specific code in pd c core 2. minimizing the communication between the
> core and the gui (3. defining the api/protocol?) 4. anyone can go make all
> sorts of guis for pd... at this point or later on vanilla may or may not
> switch from tcl - imho it's to be decided when we're there
>
> Andras
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 01:39, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The pd/pd-gui divide is a little misleading-- there are lots of places in
> > the c code where there are sys_gui and sys_vgui calls with tcl in them,
> plus
> > c code that probably assumes tcl is being used on the gui side.
> >
> > You'll either need to write a wrapper for those calls, or modify a lot of
> c
> > code and basically make a fork (iemguis, canvas stuff, etc.)
> >
> > But even if you write a wrapper, there are still issues that will need to
> > be dealt with on the c side to minimize the number of messages passing
> back
> > and forth between pd and gui.  For example, there is one call per xlet to
> > the gui when an object gets instantiated/vis'd, plus drawing the border
> and
> > text, rather than one call per object (and letting the gui deal with
> where
> > to draw xlets, box width, font, etc.).
> >
> > -Jonathan
> >
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> > *From:* yvan volochine <yvan.pd at gmail.com>
> >
> > *To:* Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> > *Cc:* Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; pd-dev List <pd-dev at iem.at>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:18 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [PD-dev] tkwidgets
> >
> > On 08/17/2011 08:54 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > > I've started a private git branch of
> > > tkwidgets that I intent to push once I get somewhere with it. The idea
> > > is to try out a new idea for how GUI objects can work. Basically, I
> > > think I can make it so that Tcl handles more of the interaction with
> the
> > > user, minimizing on pd-gui <--> pd communications, and making it easier
> > > to write GUI objects. Its not trivial to do, but should be doable.
> >
> > hiho
> >
> > sorry for bumping in but what about giving up tcl-tk and go on with
> > something more "modern" (? la Qt), with a decent OO interface ?
> >
> > I might miss the obvious as I'm new here but what about rewriting pd GUI
> in
> > Qt ?
> > wouldn't it make more sense than spending time hacking on and on tcl-tk
> > code ?
> >
> > my 0.001$
> > _y
> >
> >
> >
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