[PD] Pd-gui bug (was Re: search plugin update)

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Interesting test results.  It would be quite nice if Tcl/Tk handled  
the window placement for non-PatchWindows.  Part of the problem there  
is that the .pd fileformat stores the location of the windows, and  
therefore Pd explicitly places the windows using those coordinates.   
That might be related here, but maybe not.

As for Test 3 & 4, that's not Apple that properly places the patch  
window beneath the menubar, that's code in 'pd-gui'.  Check out  
pdtk_canvas_new in pdtk_canvas.tcl.

.hc

On Aug 29, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

> Test1:
> Gnome 3 (Fedora 15) -- no problems
> Gnome 2.32.0 (Ubuntu Maverick) -- no problems
>
> OSX 10.7 -- problem: window decoration behind Apple's menubar.
>
> Test2:
> Tried a little stand-alone version of my plugin.  Still specifying 0  
> 0 screen coordinates, and
>
> Apple automatically puts the ".search" window below the menu bar, as  
> it does for everything
>
> else I've ever seen in OSX except this issue.
>
> Test3:
> Tried any number of my PDDP help patches, which all have 0 0  
> specified as the coordinates
>
> for the patch window.  Again, Apple does the right thing and shifts  
> it down an appropriate amount.

> Test4:
> Tried to fool wish on OSX into putting a toplevel underneath the  
> menubar.  Can't do it.
>
>
> Hypothesis: Something isn't set correctly in pd-gui, but all I can  
> see (at a glance) are options
>
> that have nothing to do with window position, and some variables:  
> menubarsize and windowframey.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>; pd-list List <pd-list at iem.at 
>> >
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin update
>>
>>
>> 0 0 is problematic on couple platforms.  On Mac OS X, the menubar  
>> is always
>> there, so it puts the window header behind on menubar.  A similar  
>> problem
>> happens on GNOME.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>
>>>   Ok, fixed the weird resizing issue when the text in the status  
>>> area is
>> larger than the window.
>>>
>>>   Fixed search window to appear at 0 0 on when it's first created.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Fixed font sizing bindings.
>>>
>>>   Fixed minimum font size.
>>>
>>>   -Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>   To: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
>>>>   Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; pd-list List
>> <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>>   Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 5:38 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin update
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Aug 7, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   On Sat, 6 Aug 2011, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   - on Mac OS X Cmd-Shift-= (i.e. Cmd-+) is the standard key for
>>>>   increasing the size of the text.  Currently, its Cmd-=.
>>>>>
>>>>>   It will break on keyboard layouts that are not QWERTY or that  
>>>>> are
>> heavily
>>>>   modified QWERTY.
>>>>>
>>>>>   When I designed some things in the default DD keyboard  
>>>>> bindings, I
>> only had
>>>>   US keyboard and CF-family keyboards in mind (french QWERTY used  
>>>> in
>>>>>   Québec) and then someone notified me that I couldn't
>> distinguish
>>>>   Alt+Shift+1 from Alt+1 because 1 is already shifted in AZERTY  
>>>> (it's
>>>>   Shift-&, whereas & is not shifted).
>>>>>
>>>>>   German QWERTZ has = on Shift+0 and * on Shift++, meaning + is
>> unshifted ;
>>>>   however, Swiss QWERTZ has + shifted as Shift+1, and then there  
>>>> are
>> other QWERTZ
>>>>   than that...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   It'd be something to test, Cmd-+ might work as a keybinding, and
>> would then
>>>>   work on other keyboards.  Or perhaps you can just bind to both
>> Cmd-Shift-+ and
>>>>   Cmd-+.  For other platforms, its not a big deal since the  
>>>> keybindings
>> are not
>>>>   very consistent.  On Mac OS X, they are quite consistent across  
>>>> OS and
>> apps, so
>>>>   people notice wrong bindings a lot more.
>>>>
>>>>   .hc
>>>>
>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>   “We must become the change we want to see. - Mahatma Gandhi
>>>   <search-plugin.tcl>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies,  
>> one chapter
>> is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language;  
>> and every
>> chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne
>>
> <search-plugin.tcl>





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