[PD] audio > 1.0 not clipping?

chris clepper cgclepper at gmail.com
Sun Sep 11 20:50:04 CEST 2011


When using the internal speakers on a Macbook a limiter is put into the
CoreAudio chain.  A 3rd party hardware driver won't have this though.

Since Rich says he can hear harmonics the sine wave is being clipped so
things are working as expected.


On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> Hi all --
>
> I assume this is happening on a Macintosh -- on that platform, Pd sends
> floating point straight to the Mac audio system.  Rumor has it that the
> Mac might compress and/or equalize the signal on its way out, so who
> knows what you're actually getting.  But anyway, (and probably contrary to
> Pd's documentation) audio isn't automatically clipped on Pd's output on
> Mac although it is on Linux and Windows whose audio systems are explicitly
> fixed point (and probably not messed with by hte system).
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 01:49:52AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011, Rich E wrote:
> >
> > >Does anyone know why this doesn't clip?:
> > >[osc~ 200]
> > >|
> > >[*~ 1.5]
> > >|
> > >[dac~]
> > >
> > >I'm trying this using pd 0.43 and the audio still sounds good
> > >(although some extra harmonics can be heard), despite the phases
> > >being in the range of [-1.5, 1.5]... ?
> >
> > No, you mean the amplitude is 1.5. You're not doing anything about
> > the phase (and anyway, it's relative, so you can only hear phase
> > difference, not phase).
> >
> > If you hear extra harmonics, then it has to be already clipping.
> > What makes you think that it isn't ?
> >
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