[PD] Keyboard shortcuts for "nudge", "done editing"
Jonathan Wilkes
jancsika at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 27 19:45:09 CEST 2011
----- Original Message -----
> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> To: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
> Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] Keyboard shortcuts for "nudge", "done editing"
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
>
>> Le 2011-09-25 à 22:59:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
>>
>>> It's been forked-- four times (AFAIK). Nova, DesireData,
> Pd-extended, and Pd-l2ork. Two of those forks-- Nova and DesireData-- had
> explicitly stated goals which basically boiled down to being more responsive to
> the Pd community (in addition to many other things).
>>
>> Have you ever looked at Nova ?
>>
>> It's never been a branch of Pd in any sense, and it's never been
> compatible with Pd except in very superficial ways : even MAX is more Pd-like
> than Nova.
>>
>>> The three clauses of the BSD license used by Pd Vanilla are compatible
> with both
>>> the GPL v2 & v3
>>
>> Integrating GPL code with BSD code makes GPL the overall dominant license,
> as in it has all the clauses of BSD and makes the most restrictions. The BSD
> license still applies to any portions still under BSD license.
>>
>> The pdextended license (GPL) doesn't say to which parts of the
> programme it applies, and all the copyright/license notices I can find (in a
> bêta of 42) are all BSD. Changes & additions to BSD code don't have to
> be under the BSD license, thus if it's not stated, it's somewhat harder
> to make any assumptions...
>>
>> That kind of license fuzz is tolerated because pd developers have no
> expectation that lawyers ever have to put their nose in the project... and even
> if they did, they would not have the background to know how to fix it, or know
> which advice they can trust. I think that this is true of many (if not most)
> open/free projects.
>
>
> Pd-extended as a whole is under the GPLv3, that's the easiest way to think
> about it. Some sections of it are under the BSD License, some under the Tcl
> License (which Pd was originally), some under GPLv2, etc.
I guess by "Pd-extended as a whole" you are including externals (since you mention
the Tcl license, which I only ever saw in an external library). In that case, add LGPL
to the list (iemlib if I'm remembering correctly).
-Jonathan
>
> My personal thoughts on the license of what is in pd-extended.git are more
> vague. Yes, the intention is for much/most of that code to contributed back to
> Pd, but my only distribution of the whole thing is part of the Pd-extended
> package, which is GPLv3. So if you want to be sure, consider it GPLv3.
>
> .hc
>
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