[PD] Pd-extended 0.43 builds are working again
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at at.or.at
Mon Oct 17 20:48:04 CEST 2011
Hey Joe,
Zexy is back on Windows, so [date] and [time] should work again. As
for [declare -path] I think the way it works best is if you have a
single folder for abstractions, so wet-dry-mono.pd would be in that
folder too. Then you use [declare -path] in the top level patch so
that all of the abstractions inherit it. I attached an example:
.hc
On Oct 6, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Joe Newlin wrote:
> Here is an example of what I meant. Also, I included a bonus
> screenshot of the 'open' dialog.
>
> Thanks,
>
> JN
>
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
> <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>
> The way I work when testing is to think about having everything
> running smoothly so when I'm inspired, Pd-extended has as smooth a
> workflow as possible. Then when I working on projects using Pd, I
> don't hit these annoying issues.
>
> As for your abstraction, could you post it here so I can test with
> it? Its hard to know what's going on just by a description.
>
> .hc
>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:45 AM, Joe Newlin wrote:
>
>> I'm more than happy to contribute, but I remember being even
>> happier making music. Anyway, I just copied a compiled version of
>> zexy from an older installation on another computer and that works
>> fine (so far).
>>
>> But how about this: an abstraction (named wet-dry-mono.pd) in my
>> working directory of patches loads fine in one abstraction but not
>> in another - in the same patch.
>>
>> The abstraction that loads wet-dry-mono.pd ok is in that working
>> directory. The abstraction that does not load wet-dry-mono.pd ok is
>> in a subdirectory of the working directory, and said subdirectory
>> is loaded using [declare]. Not sure if those details are significant.
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Welcome to testing nightly builds! It is annoying but it must be
>>> done, otherwise we never have stable builds. Thanks for
>>> contributing! :-D I think only zexy is not working currently.
>>> Its not building right on Windows and Mac OS X 10.5. Everything
>>> else should work, let me know if otherwise.
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Joe Newlin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hans,
>>>>
>>>> I was able to get [declare -path] to work after a little trial
>>>> and error with path name syntax.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm curious what I need to do to get the externals in zexy
>>>> (& maybe other libraries - not sure yet) to work at all. For
>>>> example, [date] and [time].
>>>>
>>>> It's frustrating, sometimes, being just a guitar player and not a
>>>> computer programmer.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> -Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, the latency setting in Pd just sets a maximum
>>>> buffer size, it doesn't necessarily translate to actual measured
>>>> latency. Try a blind test and see if you can tell the
>>>> difference, that'll be a much better test.
>>>>
>>>> As for the search paths, you are much better of not setting them
>>>> as global preferences. Instead, use the standard install
>>>> locations for installing things globally:
>>>>
>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
>>>>
>>>> And for paths needed for patches/projects, use [declare -path].
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Joe Newlin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I installed the latest version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good news: Pd-extended and my soundcard are getting along the
>>>>> way they used to. this means setting Pd to 14 ms audio latency
>>>>> which is not great, but I can live with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad news: Pd is not saving the search paths that I add. I can't
>>>>> remember if earlier versions required clicking a "save these
>>>>> settings" kind of thing, but I could find no such option in this
>>>>> version and at any rate it's not saving the paths.
>>>>>
>>>>> Medium news: while I can deal with the 14 ms latency, Pd vanilla
>>>>> was working at around 2 ms (unless it was lying to me or
>>>>> obscuring something - I only tried it with testtone) but I still
>>>>> can't figure out how to get it to load libraries of external
>>>>> dlls. I'm just a guitar player and not a computer programmer so
>>>>> I'm a little slow at this stuff, but if you have a suggestion
>>>>> for this option I would appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all your work!
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets keep this on the pd-list so that others can participate in
>>>>> the discussion :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Martin Peach committed a fix for the pdlua_setup error
>>>>> today or last night.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Marc D. Demers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi .hc,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was able to get the installer on Windows 7. I was able to get
>>>>>> rid of all the error message by deleting some line in the
>>>>>> «path» and «startup» windows. Mainly, libs that were no more in
>>>>>> the pd extra folder. The only error message I get for the
>>>>>> moment is concerning the pdlua folder (unable to find the
>>>>>> symbol of something like that). I will try to find the bug
>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank's
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > From: hans at at.or.at
>>>>>> > To: PD-list at iem.at
>>>>>> > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:57:25 -0400
>>>>>> > Subject: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 builds are working again
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ok, after a long time without a decently working Windows
>>>>>> build, I think
>>>>>> > we have one that is actually usable. Please give it a try and
>>>>>> let me
>>>>>> > know. Here's the zip:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.43.1-extended-windowsxp-i386.zip
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > or the installer:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/Pd-0.43.1-extended-windowsxp-i386.exe
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > .hc
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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