[PD] OT: CSound for Live

Wed Oct 19 10:43:12 CEST 2011

Good to hear your thoughts folks.
I also have some doubts about this kind of initiatives.

I used to work in Live in a previous windowz existence, and what appear to
me as a dubious paradox is the attempt to extend a software which is
purposely limited by design into the wilder field of audio programming.
Obviously it's easy to argue for the added capabilities and potential that
Live users could benefit from, but I wonder how many of those users actually
demand such potential. As it has always been said here, those who really
need programming tools, will rather use them in a complete environment, than
a sketched hybrid.
It would be interesting to know whether this idea was proposed by Live or
CSound community.

cheers,
M

> Yeah, Csound4Live basically wraps Csound instruments and such in
> Max4Live using [csound~]. If [pd~] for Max gets going, you could then
> use Pd in Live. Though, if you already have Max, it might not seem as
> attractive.
>
> .mmb
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Lorenzo Sutton <lsutton at libero.it> wrote:
> > On 17/10/2011 21:42, Jeppi Jeppi wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks as a nice combination, Csound for great unique sound designs and
> >> Live for quick realtime sketches. Yep, you can do the same with Pd, even
> >> with bare C...but Csound is Csound...respect ;)
> >>
> >> I really don't use Live at all...Csound for Pd is even cooler IMHO.
> >
> > And I *think* it's using Csound for max.. so it's kinda live + max +
> Csound.
> >
> > Lorenzo.
> >
> >>
> >> Josep M
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> From: hans at at.or.at
> >> To: devel at thesaddj.com
> >> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:58:48 -0400
> >> CC: pd-list at iem.at
> >> Subject: Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live
> >>
> >>
> >> Csound will never die.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> >>
> >> ? ?any thought about this?
> >>
> >>
> >> ?
> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in-ableton-with-or-without-any-coding/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ? ?--
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:38:04 +0200
> From: Charles Goyard <cg at fsck.fr>
> Subject: Re: [PD] help browser resize + guiplugins organization
> To: pd-list at iem.at
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> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > >I'm also working on this:
> > ># TODO enter and up/down/left/right arrow key bindings for nav
> >
> > Any luck with the key bindings for the Help Browser?
>
> After a few unsuccessful attempts, I dropped the task. TCL is a strange
> language...
>
> see you,
> Charlot
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:12:57 -0400
> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Patch Contest Thread/List
> To: Mike Moser-Booth <mmoserbooth at gmail.com>
> Cc: pd-list <pd-list at iem.at>, hardoff goes bananas
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> Sounds great, I say do it!
>
> .hc
>
> On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Mike Moser-Booth wrote:
>
> > +1. I think the forum is a good place for it, too. Newbies seem to
> > gravitate toward (or at least participate more) to the forum. I think
> > this would be a great way to help new users develop some chops.
> >
> > .mmb
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:17 PM, hardoff goes bananas
> > <hard.off at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> if there is interest in this, i'd suggest the pd forum as a good
> >> place to
> >> host it.
> >>
> >> i'll set it up if a few more people agree it will be a good idea.
> >> not every
> >> week though..every now and then should be fine.
> >>
> >> i think it might be cool, not really as a 'competition', but more
> >> as a way
> >> to focus and see how other people approach something.  The
> >> "compressed/chip
> >> patch" thread we have going now is a great example.  I have had a
> >> lot of fun
> >> with that.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Tyler Leavitt <thecryoflove at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello list,
> >>>
> >>> I'd always thought it'd be fun if there was a patch contest
> >>> similar to the
> >>> Fark Photoshop contest threads. Is there already something similar
> >>> happening
> >>> in the Pd community? If not, how easily could this be integrated
> >>> (if there
> >>> is enough interest) and how? Maybe it could be a sublist, like
> >>> [ot] or
> >>> [pd-announce]... or just a specific tag in the subject line. It
> >>> wouldn't
> >>> have to include the voting aspect that Fark has and it could change
> >>> theme/concept once a week. Is there any interest in this?
> >>>
> >>> Tyler
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ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
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