[PD] drag n' drop OSX tkdnd ect .... + Gem on 10.5 extended autobuilds

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Oct 24, 2011, at 1:00 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:

>> if you have Fink installed.
>
> i do

Then it should be easy to run the auto-build script to get a full  
build of Pd-extended, as long as you have all of the dependencies  
installed from Fink.

>> As long as
>> you don't have the Tcl.framework and Tk.framework in /Library/ 
>> Frameworks, it
>> should use the built-in ones.
>
> These were not there.... should they have been?

If you are on 10.6 or 10.7, then Tcl.framework and Tk.framework using  
Tk/Cocoa are included with Mac OS X, so they'll be in /System/Library/ 
Frameworks.  The build system will look in /Library/Frameworks first,  
so to test using the built-in Tk/Cocoa, make sure Tcl.framework and  
Tk.framework are not in /Library/Frameworks.

>> For building a Pd-extended without the libraries, get the whole  
>> source via
>> rsync, if you don't have it already, then do:
>>
>> cd pd-extended/packages/darwin_app
>> make darwin_app_core
>
> yes. done.
>
>> Then you'll have a barebones Pd-extended in
>> pd-extended/packages/darwin_app/build.
>
> k. built. how do i tell thats it is using Tk/Cocoa?

If you are on 10.6 or 10.7 and there are no Tcl.framework and  
Tk.framework in /Library/Frameworks.  Also, you'll probably see a menu  
called "Apple" on the menubar, that was a bug previously that probably  
has not been fixed.  Or maybe two "Help" menus.

> the app package itself when click says i can not open being "damaged
> or incomplete"
>
> from terminal:
> megrimm-mbp:darwin_app megrimm$
> /Users/megrimm/Desktop/pd-extended/packages/darwin_app/build/ 
> Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111024.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
> Cannot connect to server socket
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
> Pt_Start() called
> Oct 24 12:59:41 megrimm-mbp.local Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111024[5884]
> <Error>: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSRegisterCursorWithImages: Invalid
> hot spot (outside of size)
> Oct 24 12:59:41 megrimm-mbp.local Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111024[5884]
> <Error>: kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to
> catch errors as they are logged.
>
> that tell you anything?


Try running it like this:

/Users/megrimm/Desktop/pd-extended/packages/darwin_app/build/Pd-0.43.1- 
extended-20111024.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr -d 3

And that will tell us a lot more.

.hc

>
> m
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at 
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2011, at 10:47 AM, m.e.grimm wrote:
>>
>>>> Basically, if you build Pd vanilla or Pd-extended on Mac OS X Snow
>>>> Leopard
>>>> or Lion withOUT installing Tcl/Tk, you'll be using Tk/Cocoa.
>>>
>>> ok... how might i do this?
>>>
>>> just a quick autogen.sh && ./configure && make from the pd-extended
>>> git repo sees to build ok. is there something i need to alter to  
>>> build
>>> "withOUT installing Tcl/Tk"?
>>>
>>> m
>>
>>
>> You could run the whole autobuild, if you have Fink installed.  As  
>> long as
>> you don't have the Tcl.framework and Tk.framework in /Library/ 
>> Frameworks, it
>> should use the built-in ones.
>>
>> For building a Pd-extended without the libraries, get the whole  
>> source via
>> rsync, if you don't have it already, then do:
>>
>> cd pd-extended/packages/darwin_app
>> make darwin_app_core
>>
>> Then you'll have a barebones Pd-extended in
>> pd-extended/packages/darwin_app/build.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:47 AM, m.e.grimm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hey hans,
>>>>>
>>>>> just tried drag n' drop plug on windows. too bad we dont use  
>>>>> windows
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> just checking status of tkdnd-plugin.tcl on OSX.
>>>>
>>>> Funny enough, drag-n-drop was easiest to implement on Windows.   
>>>> For Mac
>>>> OS
>>>> X, it requires Tk/Cocoa, which Pd-extended doesn't fully support  
>>>> yet.
>>>>  That
>>>> is the future, so that would be a great project for someone to  
>>>> take on.
>>>>  Basically, if you build Pd vanilla or Pd-extended on Mac OS X Snow
>>>> Leopard
>>>> or Lion withOUT installing Tcl/Tk, you'll be using Tk/Cocoa.   
>>>> Then you
>>>> can
>>>> find the bugs, report them, and even fix them :)  If someone did  
>>>> a survey
>>>> of
>>>> how many bugs there are, and finds that there aren't many, I  
>>>> could be
>>>> convinced to make Pd-extended 0.43 use Tk/Cocoa.  My time for  
>>>> working on
>>>> this Pd-extended release is quickly running out.
>>>>
>>>>> also.... did i miss something? Gem builds not on 10.5 extended
>>>>> autobuilds?
>>>>>
>>>>> just noticed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gem will be included, I'm just waiting to hear from IOhannes on  
>>>> his plans
>>>> for Gem development.  It wasn't building on Mac OS X 10.5, that's  
>>>> why I
>>>> removed it.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
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