[PD] expr alternative

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Wed Oct 26 18:42:28 CEST 2011

On Oct 26, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:51:23AM +0800, Simon Wise wrote:
>> On 26/10/11 01:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> The Apple App Store is incompatible with the GPL and LGPL, from  
>>> what I
>>> understand. Getting Apple to make their App Store compatible with  
>>> the GPL and
>>> LGPL is another much better solution since it will work for all  
>>> GPL and LGPL
>>> software.
>> this is of course the best solution ...
> ---->8 snip license advocacy and geopolitical theory 8<----
> I would like to register my disagreement.  In my opinion, the  
> solution which
> best serves the broad community of users -- including those users  
> for whom
> expr's licensing is problematic -- is for Pd Vanilla to have uniform  
> licensing.  It seems to me that an implementation of expr which is
> license-compatible with the rest of Vanilla is a perfectly  
> reasonable and
> understandable feature request.
> The practical rationale is obvious: if GPL (or potentially LGPL) is  
> not an
> option for you, then expr is missing from your toolkit, and it would  
> be nice
> to have it.  I understand that there are several valuable  
> contributors within
> the Pd community who believe that it is important to deny that  
> feature request
> for moral reasons.  There are also opposing moral reasons to grant  
> it, but as
> before, I intend to keep my developer list posts on licensing  
> limited to
> dry mechanics if possible; if you absolutely cannot live without a  
> sprinkle of
> BSD license advocacy to complement the on-list deluge of copyleft  
> license
> advocacy, please ask off-list.

We're talking about freedom here.  If you want to write a BSD-licensed  
expr clone, please do.  I don't think you'll find any objections.  The  
objections have been to people asking others to change the licenses  
they chose.




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