[PD] expr alternative

Ricardo Fabbri rfabbri at gmail.com
Wed Oct 26 21:04:00 CEST 2011

My 2c:

1) if you want someone to change their licensing, at least be willing
to offer them some cash. basically, you buy the new licensing. this
part is not free! I would go as far as saying it's unpolite to ask to
switch a license without offering money.

2) If you write a clone, be original lest you be sued.

3) Colloquy IRC chat client is an example of a GPL software that has a
BSD core and mobile version. Not sure if that's because the authors
are the copyright holders so they can switch licensing as they please.


Ricardo Fabbri
Linux registered user #175401

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:51:23AM +0800, Simon Wise wrote:
>>> On 26/10/11 01:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>> The Apple App Store is incompatible with the GPL and LGPL, from what I
>>>> understand. Getting Apple to make their App Store compatible with the
>>>> GPL and
>>>> LGPL is another much better solution since it will work for all GPL and
>>>> LGPL
>>>> software.
>>> this is of course the best solution ...
>> ---->8 snip license advocacy and geopolitical theory 8<----
>> I would like to register my disagreement.  In my opinion, the solution
>> which
>> best serves the broad community of users -- including those users for whom
>> expr's licensing is problematic -- is for Pd Vanilla to have uniform BSD
>> licensing.  It seems to me that an implementation of expr which is
>> license-compatible with the rest of Vanilla is a perfectly reasonable and
>> understandable feature request.
>> The practical rationale is obvious: if GPL (or potentially LGPL) is not an
>> option for you, then expr is missing from your toolkit, and it would be
>> nice
>> to have it.  I understand that there are several valuable contributors
>> within
>> the Pd community who believe that it is important to deny that feature
>> request
>> for moral reasons.  There are also opposing moral reasons to grant it, but
>> as
>> before, I intend to keep my developer list posts on licensing limited to
>> dry mechanics if possible; if you absolutely cannot live without a
>> sprinkle of
>> BSD license advocacy to complement the on-list deluge of copyleft license
>> advocacy, please ask off-list.
> We're talking about freedom here.  If you want to write a BSD-licensed expr
> clone, please do.  I don't think you'll find any objections.  The objections
> have been to people asking others to change the licenses they chose.
> .hc
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