[PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

[Mathieu Bouchard]

Le 2011-11-05 à 08:20:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :

> Well, if you threw a [tgl] into a subpatch or abstraction, got the 
> object chain that it's in working, then closed that window and the [tgl] 
> no longer passes messages, it is extremely likely that your patch will 
> no longer work.

Ok, you mean how [tgl] also does something without a GUI ?

That's because many GUI objects aren't « purely GUI objects », whereas 
Toxy allows you only to make GUI objects. This means that you have to wrap 
nearly every use of Toxy inside some kind of abstraction, in order to 
provide the extra features.

It's not the best way to say it, though, because for example, most methods 
of IEMGUI are for configuring GUI stuff such as colour and font size. 
Instead, let's say that anything that you still want to work with -nogui 
has to be implemented like that, and that principle also happens to apply 
to closed subpatches, closed abstr-instances, ever and minimised windows.

> At least that's what I remember the last time I used [widget].  It also 
> didn't [loadbang] properly which was annoying.

The concept of [widget] is interesting, but I think that it needs to be 
redone in some other way. Just like all the GUI.

At this point, though, my opinion on how to do it has changed 
significantly since the DD days, which is part of why I don't especially 
want to finish DD (and this change of opinion also has to do with 
persistent patterns in bugs I encountered).

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