[PD] drag n' drop OSX tkdnd

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Wed Nov 9 18:07:52 CET 2011 

On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:52 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:

> ok thanks for that! yeah I also independently verified this too....
> 
> so.... here is the crazy report:
> 
> http://pastebin.com/H3VSbyvJ
> 
> and i noticed i noticed:
> 
> 1)       0x7fff8de93000 -     0x7fff8e1b7fff  com.apple.HIToolbox 1.8
> (???) <A3BE7C59-52E6-3A7F-9B30-24B7DD3E95F2>
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
> 
> Carbon? isnt this supposed to be using Cocoa?

I think there is a portion of Carbon that is maintained and ported to 64-bit.  I think it was the Carbon UI stuff that was dropped.
http://www.carbondev.com/site/?page=64-bit+Carbon

> 2) 10 -[NSWindow(NSWindowResizing)
> _hitTestWithHysteresisCheck:forEvent:allowWindowDragging:] + 346 (in
> AppKit) [0x7fff89d9ecf9]
>                        10 +[NSWindow(NSWindowResizing)
> _mouseHysteresisCheck:withExpiration:andDistance:finalMouseLocation:]
> + 483 (in AppKit) [0x7fff89dea25f]
> 
> crash is related all to the window resizing....

That code is Obj-C, so probably Cocoa...

.hc

> 
> cheers
> m
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/10/27 András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>:
>> Since CGSRegisterCursorWithImages is a private function and it is not called
>> directly form Pd, one could say it's a bug in CG per se - because the
>> function that calls it from inside CG shall not pass on any illegal calls.
>> 
>> Andras
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 21:19, m.e.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah had a few min today to take some more look at this.
>>> 
>>> been reading up on the whole tk-cocoa thing too...
>>> 
>>> as far as I can tell, there are not multiple issues but one larger one
>>> narrowed down to:
>>> 
>>> Oct 27 15:01:49 megrimm-mbp.local Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111027[15460]
>>> <Error>: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSRegisterCursorWithImages: Invalid
>>> hot spot (outside of size)
>>> 
>>> which occurs specifically when switching with the mouse between the PD
>>> console window and the canvas/patch window.
>>> 
>>> also I was totally wrong here:
>>> 
>>>>>> You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now?  I guess
>>>>>> that's a
>>>>>> Lion thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa
>>>>> build....
>>> 
>>> windows CAN be resized on lion from any corner (Any Corner Resizing)
>>> although again, on my tk-cocoa build PD will crash when trying to
>>> resize from the bottom right or left. This is NOT true of the PD
>>> console window though which can be resized without a problem from any
>>> corner.
>>> 
>>> my question is: whats the difference between the code for the PD
>>> console window that allows for resizing at any corner and the PD
>>> canvas windows that do not? I think this may be the heart of the prob
>>> with the crashes and weird error (CGSRegisterCursorWithImages) ....
>>> maybe.
>>> 
>>> other thing i am noticing is the mouse pointer keeping weird states
>>> (double pointer, etc) without reverting back to a pointer. I also get
>>> no "hand2" in edit mode. not sure if this is related to the windowing
>>> problem though...
>>> 
>>>> I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
>>> 
>>> i think im just starting to get old
>>> 
>>> m
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> from that.  Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> the crash log to a pastebin.com?
>>>>> 
>>>>> you mean with the autobuilds? I can not trigger that crash with those.
>>>>> those are fine...
>>>>> 
>>>>> but maybe more importantly:
>>>> 
>>>> Duh, sorry, the point was to test Pd without the included Tcl/Tk and to
>>>> use
>>>> Mac OS X's Tk/Cocoa.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now?  I guess
>>>>>> that's a
>>>>>> Lion thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa
>>>>> build....
>>>>> 
>>>>> my eyes are bleeding so more from me will have to wait until tomorrow.
>>>> 
>>>> I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
>>>> 
>>>> .hc
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:51 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> well commenting out lines 84 -> 86 in pdwindow.tcl stops the message:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>> UNHANDLED ERROR: can't find package tkdnd
>>>>>>>  while executing
>>>>>>> "package require tkdnd"
>>>>>>>  ("uplevel" body line 1)
>>>>>>>  invoked from within
>>>>>>> "uplevel #0 $tclcode"
>>>>>>> FAILED TO LOAD /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl
>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> from appearing in the pd window.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> maybe thats something. IDK.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's a red herring, you really want those lines in pdwindow.tcl
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> show you Tcl errors.  The UNHANDLED ERROR that you are seeing is
>>>>>> caused
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> the file /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl.  Remove that file and it will
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i will have to mess with i more when i get time. I also wanted to
>>>>>>> mention that I get spinning beachball and prog crash when I try to
>>>>>>> resize a new doc only starting from the bottom right. all other
>>>>>>> window
>>>>>>> resizing (upper left and right, bottom left) work fine. does that
>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>> anything to you?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now?  I guess
>>>>>> that's a
>>>>>> Lion thing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> anyway here is the crash report:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That seems to show stuff deep in Tcl, so its hard to know what's going
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> from that.  Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> the crash log to a pastebin.com?  It should have more info since its
>>>>>> built
>>>>>> with debug symbols.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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