[PD] choosing your language at launch WAS: Japanese Pure Data book is out now.

Sun Mar 4 06:55:09 CET 2012

Glad it worked out.  About handling the translations, I don't really have a good sense of who will want to use it in their native language and who in English.  My guess is that the more technical people will be using Pd in English, and the less technical would use Pd in their native language.

Based on that guess, then the idea would be to make it use the translations by default, then provide instructions for the more technical people to switch to English.

You just demonstrated a simple yet effective way to force Pd in English on any system: remove the translation files in the po/ folder, i.e. ja.msg, etc.

.hc

On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> Sorry, I misread your instruction. It was for how to make ja.msg file
> from ja.po file then to import it to Pd-extended0.43.app downloaded
> from nightly build. (I thought I needed to build app by myself.)
> Now, I can run Pd-extended0.43.1.app with Japanese UI. (see attached pic.)
> This is amazing!
> I can do fully checking.
> 
> BTW, this is just a suggestion about language mode.
> If it is difficult to put language select pull-down menu in
> preferences, how is about not including all the language files in po
> folder of Pd-extended.app as default?
> It means the default language is English and installing the other
> language ~.msg files are optional. Users can download the language
> ~.msg file and put it in Pd-extended.app/Contents/resources/po folder
> under the instruction as they want it. It is not difficult even for
> non-geek people.
> This is like OpenOffice language plug-in files style.
> How do you think?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Sei Matsumura
> ---
> sei at low-tech-ism.com
> ---
> 
> 
> 2012年3月2日9:48 Seiichiro MATSUMURA <sei at low-tech-ism.com>:
>> Thank you for the precise instruction. I could trace this but could not make
>> Pd-extended0.43.app in the end.
>> I can run "pd" unix file in "pd-extended/src" folder and see ja.msg is
>> working partly, not all functions are working correctly like Bang
>> button object is missing, Vslider is missing, etc.
>> I need to check all the Japanese translated menu and indication in all
>> the properties windows.
>> Do I have to do any other steps for building Pd-extended0.43.app?
>> 
>> I already check "INSTALL.txt" in pd-extended folder and this article
>> but could not accomplish it.
>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Sei Matsumura
>> 
>> ---
>> sei at low-tech-ism.com
>> ---
>> 
>> 2012年2月25日6:56 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>>> 
>>> I was updating pd-extended.git, so I threw in the new Japanese
>>> translation :-).  I'll be sure to update it one last time before the
>>> final release, so you can test it in a real build.
>>> 
>>> I'm all for choice with the language of the app, but it seems to me that
>>> is something that the OS should handle.  So anyone who set their system
>>> language to English will get Pd-extended in English.  For those who want
>>> some mix of languages, then there is no standard technique that I know
>>> of, and how you do it varies on each OS.  If someone wants to code this
>>> for Pd-extended, patches are welcome.
>>> 
>>> For the geeks, you can select the language easily when launching Pd from
>>> the terminal.  This is what I do for testing the language support:
>>> 
>>> $ export LANG=en
>>> $ /usr/bin/pd-extended
>>> 
>>> or on Mac OS X:
>>> 
>>> $ /Applications/Pd-extended/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
>>> 
>>> You can see the supported languages in the po/ folder inside Pd.
>>> 
>>> .hc
>>> 
>>> On 02/23/2012 11:54 PM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> I finished Transifex work in Japanese 100%. Then I was surprised my
>>>> partly inputs of Transifex in middle of Feb. is already reflected in
>>>> 0.43.1-beta 20120223.
>>>> 
>>>> However, it seems working automatic depends on system language of OSX, now.
>>>> I think it would be nice if users can select language mode in
>>>> Preferences, for example like Audacity's language setting. Because
>>>> many Japanese users (especially geeks) already get used to the general
>>>> English menu and interfaces.
>>>> Of course, Japanese interfaces is truly helpful for Japanese Pd newbies.
>>>> So languages selectable is the ideal.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Sei Matsumura
>>>> --
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>>>> Seiichiro Matsumura
>>>> 
>>>> sei at low-tech-ism.com
>>>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
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>>>> 
>>>> 2012/2/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>>>>> That's great! I wish I could read it.  I love the idea of including the interviews and the PdCon report, it shows the multidimensionality of Pd.  Its not just software, but the community behind it as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To match this release, I think it would be nice to also have a complete Japanese translation of the Pd interface. To contribute, create an account on transifex and edit the Japanese translation in this webform:
>>>>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/resource/templatepot/
>>>>> 
>>>>> .hc
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Seiichiro MATSUMURA wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The world first Japanese Pure Data book for sound programming will be
>>>>>> published from BNN(Bug News Network) Inc. on 23rd Feb. 2012 in Japan.
>>>>>> The title is "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data". This
>>>>>> book is written for the programming newbies with the step by step type
>>>>>> tutorials.
>>>>>> If you know anybody who can read Japanese and hope to jump into the Pd
>>>>>> world, please recommend this book.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Web site (Japanese)
>>>>>> "Pd Recipe Book -Sound Programming with Pure Data"
>>>>>> http://www.bnn.co.jp/books/title_index/web/pd_recipe_book_pure_data.html#more
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope this become the starting point to spread Pd in Japan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> best wishes,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sei Matsumura
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Seiichiro Matsumura, Ph.D.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tokyo University of Technology
>>>>>> School of Design
>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://low-tech-ism.com/
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