[PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120304 and new disis_wiimote external now available

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 5 20:36:10 CET 2012





----- Original Message -----
> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu>
> To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' <jancsika at yahoo.com>; 'p1k53l workshop' <piksel at piksel.no>; pd-list at iem.at; linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
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> Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 2:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [PD] ANN: pd-l2ork v.20120304 and new disis_wiimote external now available
> 
>>  Sounds great.  I'll try it out in a bit.
>> 
>>  Just curious-- if I send [tip 1 Hello Canvas( to a canvas, where on the
>>  canvas does the tooltip appear?
>> 
>>  -Jonathan
> 
> Next to the cursor. We can alter that if this proves to be unintuitive.

Well, I personally prefer the "status bar" approach than tooltips that nestle up next to 
my mouse-- that's why I always printed out the tooltip at the bottom of the patch (or 
at the top if the user is mousing at the bottom).  This is basically the Firefox approach 
seen when you mouse over a link on a web page and a little label appears at the bottom 
right of the patch (or bottom left, depending on where your mouse is).

However, I think I combined two related features that may not belong together:
1) tooltips
2) canvas tips

Even though it's not my preference, your tooltip placement seems to work well and is 
probably the clearest placement for the new user (who will probably benefit most from 
using them).

Btw-- one thing I notice is that a) I can generate a tip for the object itself while the inlet 
appears highlighted, and b) once I generate an inlet tip, if I move the mouse horizontally 
to the right the inlet will continue to be highlighted even though the mouse is no longer over 
it.

However, I think canvas tips should still be placed at the bottom of the canvas, similar to 
Firefox url links at the bottom of the page.  Two important use cases off the top of my head:
1) tutorial where the text gets displayed in reaction to user input.  For example, the 
tip can tell the user how to spin a number box, and after the user spins it the tip can change 
to let the user know they did it correctly, and move on to the next part of the tutorial.  In 
general this can make tutorial text a lot more interactive.
2) a revised pddplink could use it to display the actual link location when link text 
is displayed.

-Jonathan

> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Ico
> 



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