[PD] mrpeach routeOSC behaves differently then its previous release?

[Jonathan Wilkes]

----- Original Message -----

> From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>
> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> Cc: pd-list <pd-list at iem.at>
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] mrpeach routeOSC behaves differently then its previous release?
> 
> Le 2012-03-12 à 18:36:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
> 
>>  I personally think it would be great to get rid of the separation between 
> lists and non-list messages (i.e. lists of atoms that start with a symbol other 
> than "list").  But that's a big project that will break backwards 
> compatibility.
> 
> This sounds like something that will create more problems than it will solve.

I think the current implementation (and documentation) tries to skirt the issue 
and ends up making it worse. The [route] object does...what?  It looks like the 
object was designed so that the new user can quickly conclude that it takes the 
first "thingy" in the message you send it, eats the thingy and shoots out any
remaining thingies (if no more thingies, then burp out a bang).  Super simple 
if all the thingies in the message are numbers.  A collection of exceptions if 
you want to do anything else.  (It has three modes... I mean, two modes, and 
two selectors that never get stripped, I mean...hm... let me check the docs 
again...etc.)

Similar with [list length].  Just remember that all incoming messages are 
converted to lists.  So an incoming "symbol foo" message will have... how many 
items?  Uh-oh, we didn't define "convert".

[symbol foo(
|
[list length]
|
"1"

Selectors don't count...

[foo(
|
[list length]
|
"1"

I meant built-in selectors don't count...

[tranverse this, bang(
|
[pointer]
|
[route pointer]
|                  |
[s a]            [s b]

[r a]
|
[list length]
|
"?"

[r b]
|
[list length]
|
"?"

[namecanvas this]

Let's start over.  The [route] object takes the first thingy and...

-Jonathan

> 
> I mean, it's possible to be both part of the problem and of the solution. It 
> happens when the solution is the problem.
> 
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