[PD] porting a Pd patch to Max license issues

[Marco Donnarumma]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Marco Donnarumma <devel at thesaddj.com>wrote:

> thanks for the hint Bryan,
> that might apply.
> In this case, porting the code to Max or Max4Live is not legal, unless I
> specify an additional exception for it, is it correct?
>
> so now, to make it spicier,
> I found this FAQ:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> If a library is released under the GPL (not the LGPL), does that mean that
> any software which uses it has to be under the GPL or a GPL-compatible
> license?
>
> Yes, because the software as it is actually run includes the library.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> is this a show-stopper for porting of the XS into a proprietary
> environment?
>
>
p.s. I would be happy if it was.




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> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Bryan Jurish <
> moocow.bovine at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> moin Marco,
>>
>> sounds like a case for the "system library exception" to me; see here:
>>
>>  http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs
>>
>> ... my take is that for a (Pd|Max|...) patch, the dataflow interpreter
>> (Pd, Max, or what have you) represents the required "system library" for
>> use of that patch, so the copyleft doesn't kick in.  If you're the
>> copyright holder, you can also always add explicit "linking exceptions"
>> to GPL'd code, but I think that shouldn't be necessary in this case,
>> since interpreter (Pd|Max|...) and program code (patch) are cleanly
>> separated.
>>
>> marmosets,
>>        Bryan
>>
>> On 2012-03-14 13:48, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>> > hey folks,
>> >
>> > I'm not going to port anything to Max, but someone expressed interest in
>> > porting the Xth Sense in Max.
>> >
>> > Now, apart from my personal view about this, which is a diplomatic "I'd
>> > rather not, thanks. Port the patch you need to Pd instead".
>> >
>> > what are the license issues here?
>> > The XS framework in Pd will be GPL.
>> > Can a Max software be GPL? What about copyleft then?
>> >
>> > I found this but it's not clear. and I thought there could not be GPL
>> > software written in Max because the interpreter is closed-source.
>> > http://www.cycling74.com/forums/topic.php?id=1139
>> >
>> > and this is nothing new but good and clear resource:
>> > http://www.blogherald.com/2009/07/07/the-basics-of-the-gpl/
>> >
>> > thoughts, previous cases?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bryan Jurish                           "There is *always* one more bug."
>> moocow.bovine at gmail.com         -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology
>>
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>
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> Marco Donnarumma
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> ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
> The University of Edinburgh, UK
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Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
The University of Edinburgh, UK
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