[PD] search plugin revision

[Jonathan Wilkes]

----- Original Message -----

> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> To: m.e.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com>
> Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
> 
> 
> That other big blue search thing on Mac OS X is the Apple Help search.  It only 
> searches Apple Help.  If anyone can figure out how to either make it search .pd 
> files, or make it go away entirely, that would be great to have.

Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two "Preferences" menu items under the 
main Pd application menu.

-Jonathan

> 
> .hc
> 
> On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:50 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
> 
>>  this looks really great!
>> 
>>  hans ... whats up with the other "Search" under "help". 
> I cant even
>>  type into it let alone search for anything. are we just getting rid of
>>  that and replacing with jonathons?
>> 
>>  thanks!
>>  m
>> 
>>  On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>>>  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>  To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>>>>  Cc: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:47 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Very nice, a big improvement.  Its really looking quite complete.  
> Its getting
>>>>  so good that I finally missed that it doesn't have a back 
> button like lots
>>>>  of browserly things these days.
>>> 
>>>  There's probably a way to do that if someone wants to investigate.  
> There's a
>>>  "dump" subcommand for the text widget, but you'd probably 
> want to cache it
>>>  on disk since results can be pretty big for, say, a search for 
> "float".
>>> 
>>>  Other issues:
>>>  * long searches on OSX.  I'm just doing a regex on every file as 
> one big
>>>  string (which is faster than foreaching each line).  Could be faster 
> with an
>>>  index but then not even half of all docs have keywords or metadata.
>>>  * users can easily trigger tk error messages because I'm using 
> their input
>>>  as the regex pattern.  Plus, I'm blithely treating the input as if 
> it were a well
>>>  formed list, and thus I've entered tcl "quoting hell".  
> The benefit is that I get
>>>  string quoting for free, and I'm quite fine with that vs. the cost 
> of an error
>>>  with a complex regex pattern.
>>>  * external libraries that don't have a *-meta.pd patch won't 
> get listed in the
>>>  external libraries list.  (Simple fix, though.)
>>>  * Pd's chronic lack of user-friendly documentation is even more 
> obvious.
>>>  One external library's description is something like "my bag 
> of tricks"!
>>>  Of course many of the libs are just directories for a particular 
> developer's
>>>  experimentation, but if you see a description that can be improved let
>>>  me know and I'll fix it.
>>> 
>>>  -Jonathan
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Its definitely ready to be on the puredata.info/downloads page, at 
> the very
>>>>  least.
>>>> 
>>>>  One minor thing, it seems that the widget frames and the background 
> are slightly
>>>>  different shades of grey (see attachment):
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  .hc
>>>> 
>>>>  On Mar 21, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>   Search plugin revision:
>>>>>   1) links to tutorials, manual, and other stuff to guide 
> beginners on the
>>>>  front page
>>>>>   2) tutorial and libdir filebrowser obsoletes the 
> <ctrl-B> HelpBrowser
>>>>>   3) folder icon allows to open any directory (or libdir) in 
> external file
>>>>  browser
>>>>>   4) Found an object in the search results you've never seen 
> before?
>>>>  Click the
>>>>> 
>>>>>   info icon to automatically open the readme file from the 
> libdir author!
>>>>>   5) search results in alphabetical order, with internal objects 
> listed first
>>>>>   6) see a hint in the statusbar for all links
>>>>>   7) description/author/license/version automatically listed for 
> every libdir
>>>>  in the libdir format
>>>>> 
>>>>>   -Jonathan
>>>>>   
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