[PD] search plugin revision

m.e.grimm megrimm at gmail.com
Thu Mar 22 14:28:30 CET 2012


> Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two "Preferences" menu items

I remember that one. seems to be gone now....

> files, or make it go away entirely,

might be better (easier?) to use available apple help search? a quick
look i see mo way to get rid of it. there is a "Help Indexer tool" ...
but seems this would be completely different than the plugin...


m

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>> To: m.e.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
>>
>>
>> That other big blue search thing on Mac OS X is the Apple Help search.  It only
>> searches Apple Help.  If anyone can figure out how to either make it search .pd
>> files, or make it go away entirely, that would be great to have.
>
> Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two "Preferences" menu items under the
> main Pd application menu.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:50 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
>>
>>>  this looks really great!
>>>
>>>  hans ... whats up with the other "Search" under "help".
>> I cant even
>>>  type into it let alone search for anything. are we just getting rid of
>>>  that and replacing with jonathons?
>>>
>>>  thanks!
>>>  m
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>>  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>>  To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>>>>>  Cc: "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:47 PM
>>>>>  Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Very nice, a big improvement.  Its really looking quite complete.
>> Its getting
>>>>>  so good that I finally missed that it doesn't have a back
>> button like lots
>>>>>  of browserly things these days.
>>>>
>>>>  There's probably a way to do that if someone wants to investigate.
>> There's a
>>>>  "dump" subcommand for the text widget, but you'd probably
>> want to cache it
>>>>  on disk since results can be pretty big for, say, a search for
>> "float".
>>>>
>>>>  Other issues:
>>>>  * long searches on OSX.  I'm just doing a regex on every file as
>> one big
>>>>  string (which is faster than foreaching each line).  Could be faster
>> with an
>>>>  index but then not even half of all docs have keywords or metadata.
>>>>  * users can easily trigger tk error messages because I'm using
>> their input
>>>>  as the regex pattern.  Plus, I'm blithely treating the input as if
>> it were a well
>>>>  formed list, and thus I've entered tcl "quoting hell".
>> The benefit is that I get
>>>>  string quoting for free, and I'm quite fine with that vs. the cost
>> of an error
>>>>  with a complex regex pattern.
>>>>  * external libraries that don't have a *-meta.pd patch won't
>> get listed in the
>>>>  external libraries list.  (Simple fix, though.)
>>>>  * Pd's chronic lack of user-friendly documentation is even more
>> obvious.
>>>>  One external library's description is something like "my bag
>> of tricks"!
>>>>  Of course many of the libs are just directories for a particular
>> developer's
>>>>  experimentation, but if you see a description that can be improved let
>>>>  me know and I'll fix it.
>>>>
>>>>  -Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Its definitely ready to be on the puredata.info/downloads page, at
>> the very
>>>>>  least.
>>>>>
>>>>>  One minor thing, it seems that the widget frames and the background
>> are slightly
>>>>>  different shades of grey (see attachment):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  .hc
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Mar 21, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Search plugin revision:
>>>>>>   1) links to tutorials, manual, and other stuff to guide
>> beginners on the
>>>>>  front page
>>>>>>   2) tutorial and libdir filebrowser obsoletes the
>> <ctrl-B> HelpBrowser
>>>>>>   3) folder icon allows to open any directory (or libdir) in
>> external file
>>>>>  browser
>>>>>>   4) Found an object in the search results you've never seen
>> before?
>>>>>  Click the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   info icon to automatically open the readme file from the
>> libdir author!
>>>>>>   5) search results in alphabetical order, with internal objects
>> listed first
>>>>>>   6) see a hint in the statusbar for all links
>>>>>>   7) description/author/license/version automatically listed for
>> every libdir
>>>>>  in the libdir format
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   -Jonathan
>>>>>>
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