[PD] search plugin revision

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 22 19:37:08 CET 2012


----- Original Message -----

> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> Cc: m.e.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com>; "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
> 
> 
> On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>>>  From: m.e.grimm <megrimm at gmail.com>
>>>  To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>>>  Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>; 
> "pd-list at iem.at" <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:28 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: [PD] search plugin revision
>>> 
>>>>  Also, the last time I tried Pd on OSX it had two 
> "Preferences" 
>>>  menu items
>>> 
>>>  I remember that one. seems to be gone now....
>>> 
>>>>  files, or make it go away entirely,
>>> 
>>>  might be better (easier?) to use available apple help search? a quick
>>>  look i see mo way to get rid of it. there is a "Help Indexer 
> tool" ...
>>>  but seems this would be completely different than the plugin...
>> 
>>  I don't know why you can't type anything into that box.  In Firefox 
> it brings 
>>  up results about Safari and stuff, so it looks like a global help search.  
> Looks 
>>  like the Firefox devs just made some shortcuts to point to menu items in 
> the 
>>  Apple help (or it generated them automatically with that toolkit but 
> doesn't with 
>>  Tcl/Tk).
>> 
>>  But I think the correct solution for the plug-in is to name it "Pd 
> Help" or "Pd 
>>  Help Browser" in the menu, then there is no confusion.
> 
> 
> For me, searching is very useful, but does not replace browsing.

The plugin is itself a browser that's designed to obsolete the current doc browser.  
In addition to that, it can also be used to search the docs.  I just happened 
to write the searching functionality first and named the plugin before I 
implemented the browsing capability.

If you want I can put two links on the "home" page to browse "$::sys_libdir/doc"-- 
one for browsing within the text widget, and the other to spawn an external 
file manager.  Then there will literally be nothing you can do with the current 
browser that can't be done more easily (and transparently) with my plugin.

-Jonathan

> But yes, a 
> clearer name would be helpful.  GNU/Linux and Windows do not have that blue 
> search bar thing, so "Search" is a fully appropriate name there.  
> Hopefully on OSX we can find out how to disable that blue thing or use it for 
> the search plugin.
> 
> .hc
> 
> 
> 
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