[PD] [pd] tables as patch storage

Roman Haefeli reduzent at gmail.com
Tue Mar 27 19:41:47 CEST 2012


On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 11:21 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> Le 2012-03-27 à 08:04:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
> 
> > Anythings aren't really free-form, either.  "float my boat" isn't a valid message in 
> > Pd.
> 
> I mean as free-form as storable Anythings can be. I not talking about 
> atoms that are not storable, nor about non-atoms, pink elephants and 
> winged pigs.
> 
> > But even if you're reading a Pd file with [textfile]-- which as far as I 
> > know doesn't ever start with the word "float"--
> 
> selector float can always be implied, so it needs not be written. This is 
> because of what binbuf_eval does.
> 
> >> (Of course, there are externals, but they're not the kind of thing used by 
> >> the kind of people who come up with list-abs.)
> >
> > I don't know what that means.  What does that mean?
> 
> list-abs was designed to only use pd's builtins, no externs, which makes 
> it more like academic exercises of proving that anything can be done with 
> a Turing tape machine

I can only speak for myself (your opinion obviously differs), but I
actually find the list-abs library pretty useful. Though, I am sometimes
not using it directly, but copy&pasting stuff from it to my patches. And
sometimes I really use it as a library. I find the goal of it being only
vanilla rather a pragmatic than an academic one.

I also expect Frank not to have made it only for academia's sake.

Roman




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