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Thu Aug 23 10:31:50 CEST 2012


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On 02/16/2013 02:28 PM, Bj=F6rn Eriksson wrote:
> Thank you for this news!! The youtube was excellent in explaining some
> things aswell!
> I should know better but I am not using the command line so much in
> the win7 machine i am on, should i write "LANG=3Dpt
> c:/program/pd/pd-extended"  The folder pd is installed at is
> program/pd    but seems i have some problems with the syntax...
> should it be backslashes?
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> All the best,
> /bj=F6rn
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> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>=
 wrote:
>>
>> You can also do that LANG=3Dpt trick on Windows and Mac OS X, but you =
have to
>> use the full path to pd/bin/pd instead of just 'pd-extended'.
>>
>> If someone has written in a patch in their own language, the patch wil=
l always
>> be in that language.  There is currently no way to have patches with
>> translations of the text.  Its something I think we should add for tut=
orials
>> and reference docs.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 02/16/2013 01:37 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from=
 the
>>> command line with the preferred language
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DeLkSmIAleMc
>>> Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch =
you
>>> made in another language it will most likely switch to that language,=
 as
>>> far as my experience tells me..
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Bj=F6rn Eriksson <miulew at gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installati=
on
>>>> folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
>>>>
>>>> I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd
>>>> (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 differe=
nt
>>>> languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different
>>>> countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of
>>>> them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different
>>>> reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They=B4re also on
>>>> different platforms.
>>>>
>>>> My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a
>>>> preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force
>>>> another language to be showed?
>>>>
>>>> /Bj=F6rn Eriksson
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, =D2scar Mart=EDnez Carmona
>>>> <xamps23 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
>>>>>
>>>>> El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, =D2scar Mart=EDnez Carmona ha es=
crit:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I switch it back to English?
>>>>>> I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escri=
t:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using. =
 If
>>>> not,
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> a bug.  Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock i=
s
>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>> in and uses that.  Apparently, this is not reliable, since I gues=
s
>>>> people
>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>> systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock d=
oesn't
>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>> to respect that change.  You can check the language of your Dock =
and
>>>> your
>>>>>>> global locale by running this in the Terminal:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> defaults read com.apple.dock loc
>>>>>>> defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like =
this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar re=
ason.
>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>> as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fa=
il to
>>>>>>> respect
>>>>>>> the user setting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
>>>>>>>> How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and M=
ac
>>>> for
>>>>>>>> 0.43
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>> I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but =
the
>>>>>>>> readme
>>>>>>>> for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also s=
eems
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none tha=
t I
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> find).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found =
was
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me.
>>>>>>>> Is there a more elegant way to do this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was th=
at
>>>>>>>> "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their n=
ative
>>>>>>>> language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines
>>>>>>>> and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even
>>>> though
>>>>>>>> every single one of them runs all software on their machine in
>>>> English
>>>>>>>> only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the languag=
e is
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the OS is running in, is also the language that people really wa=
nt to
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> their software in?
>>>>>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> =D2scar Mart=EDnez Carmona
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
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