[PD] namespaces in help files [was: Re: [pd] osc processing array to the pd table]

[Jonathan Wilkes]

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> From: Patrice Colet <colet.patrice at free.fr>
>To: pd-list <pd-list at iem.at> 
>Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> 
>Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 9:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [PD] namespaces in help files [was: Re: [pd] osc processing array to the pd table]
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>> De: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
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>> > I use to remove all the stuff at startup and use this namespace/
>> > stuff, or even
>> > better, the [declare] thingy in main patches,
>> > then it's easier to figure out what's happening.
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>> > It would be cool to have this in help files,
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>> That shouldn't be necessary if the author uses the libdir format
>> because the binaries are in the same directory as the help files
>> and Pd looks there first for the objects.
>> 
>> Unfortunately that same behavior doesn't apply for abstractions
>> but it should.
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>Hi Jonathan, and thanks for answering,
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>most of the nice pdx stuff isn't in libdir format, like iem and Gem,

I opened up iemlib and iemmatrix in the browser
of Pd-extended 0.43 and it looks like the binaries are in the same
dir as the help patches.  Are there some iem* libs that aren't
like this?


>the last isn't so hard to fix, it's a just a single word to put in startup file,
>but the first is full of helpfiles where many different objects from different libs couldn't be created,
>some even crashes pd (win32 still, 20120720 version).

Did you file a bug report for the crashes?

As for help patches using objects from different libs-- they should
probably add [import] for those objects, or better yet use Vanilla
objects instead.  (But I know that can't be done for everything-- some
help patches use stuff like [grid] for an example patch.)

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>Also the main problem isn't really about figuring out what's happening in patches,
>but something that has been often debated in the list, conflictual objects,
>same name but different behaviors, like [counter] for example, is this has been solved after all?
I'm not sure of the current status of this problem or the road map to fixing it.


-Jonathan


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