[PD] close all patches on quit sourceforge patch

Thu Oct 25 15:07:09 CEST 2012

Just tried it here, works fine. There are some older versions of tcl/tk
files in the bin directory I forgot to clean out so make sure to explicitly
copy all tcl/tk files, like so:

cd pd/bin
cp ../src/pd.tk .
cp ../src/*tcl .
./pd-l2ork

That said, running core pd-l2ork without all the customized externals will
only give you a limited picture. E.g. pd-l2ork uses a custom version of
cwiid that supports wiimote passthrough mode, but that requires installing
the custom version of cwiid. If you are using the full installer, this will
be done for you...

Best wishes,

Ico

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:hans at at.or.at]
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:18 AM
> To: Ivica Bukvic
> Cc: pd-list; IOhannes m zmoelnig
> Subject: Re: close all patches on quit sourceforge patch
> 
> 
> yup:
> 
> hans at palatschinken bin $ dpkg -l tkpng
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> |
> |Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig
> |-pend / Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name             Version          Description
> +++-================-================-
> ==================================
> +++==============
> ii  tkpng            0.9-1ubuntu1     PNG photo image support to Tcl/Tk
> 
> 
> Does it not work with Tcl/Tk 8.5?
> 
> hans at palatschinken bin $ tclsh
> % info patchlevel
> 8.5.11
> 
> 
> .hc
> 
> On 10/25/2012 12:11 AM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> > Do you have tkpng installed as per instructions on pd-l2ork's webpage?
> > On Oct 24, 2012 11:57 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at at.or.at>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hmm, something different, but still not running:
> >>
> >> hans at palatschinken bin $ cp ../src/pd.tk .
> >> hans at palatschinken bin $ ./pd-l2ork -stderr -d 3 set pd_whichmidiapi
> >> 2 pdtk_pd_startup {Pd version 0.42-6extended-l2ork-20121007 } { {OSS
> >> 2} {ALSA 1} } { {default-MIDI 2} {ALSA-MIDI 1} } {DejaVu Sans Mono}
> >> normal set pd_whichmidiapi 2
> >> tcl: /media/share/code/pd-l2ork/pd/bin/pd.tk: can't open script
> >> ^CPd: signal 2
> >> hans at palatschinken bin $ ls -l
> >> /media/share/code/pd-l2ork/pd/bin/pd.tk
> >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 hans hans 289074 Oct 24 23:55
> >> /media/share/code/pd-l2ork/pd/bin/pd.tk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/24/2012 10:56 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> >>> You forgot pd.tk...
> >>> On Oct 24, 2012 10:52 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at at.or.at>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I did:
> >>>> cd pd/
> >>>> cp tcl/*.tcl bin/
> >>>> cd bin
> >>>> ./pd-l2ork
> >>>>
> >>>> and got the same result:
> >>>>
> >>>> hans at palatschinken bin $ ./pd-l2ork  -stderr -d 3 set
> >>>> pd_whichmidiapi 2 pdtk_pd_startup {Pd version
> >>>> 0.42-6extended-l2ork-20121007 } { {OSS 2} {ALSA 1} } {
> >>>> {default-MIDI 2} {ALSA-MIDI 1} } {DejaVu Sans Mono} normal set
> >>>> pd_whichmidiapi 2
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> .hc
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/24/2012 10:16 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> >>>>> If you are not installing it onto system, copy TCL files into the
> >> pd/bin
> >>>>> dir. Remember, this is a fork of 0.42.
> >>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 9:07 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at at.or.at>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just tried the latest pd-l2ork from git, and it doesn't seem to
> >> start
> >>>>>> correctly.  I did:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> cd pd/src
> >>>>>> aclocal
> >>>>>> autoconf
> >>>>>> ./configure
> >>>>>> make
> >>>>>> ../bin/pd-l2ork
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I also tried:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> cd ../bin
> >>>>>> ./pd-l2ork
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All I got was a great square window with no menu.  I'm on Linux
> >>>>>> Mint
> >> 13
> >>>>>> Maya
> >>>>>> amd64, which is basically Ubuntu/Precise.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .hc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/24/2012 08:47 PM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> >>>>>>> It is only the draw command, not the communication...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW do either of you know why one would be getting pdtk_post {
> >>>>>>> stack overflow } messages? Doors that mean the cpu is unable to
> >>>>>>> handle all
> >>>> gui
> >>>>>>> requests?
> >>>>>>> On Oct 24, 2012 8:32 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner"
> >>>>>>> <hans at at.or.at>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for that info.  Sounds like a good idea in general.  I
> >>>> personally
> >>>>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>>> think of any reason why the DSP would need to be on during the
> >>>> quitting.
> >>>>>>>>  But
> >>>>>>>> for the 'redraw' part, that depends.  If it is literally only
> >>>> redrawing
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> is suspended, that would be fine.  But if its all Pd<-->GUI
> >>>>>> communications,
> >>>>>>>> that will probably cause problems.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> .hc
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 10/24/2012 06:02 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hans and Iohannes,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The following is FYI.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Several months ago I integrated the close all patches before
> >> quitting
> >>>>>>>> patch
> >>>>>>>>> in pd-l2ork and since then I've been experiencing extremely
> >> sporadic
> >>>>>>>> crashes
> >>>>>>>>> on close that would hang pd-l2ork. Now, I am not sure this is
> >> because
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> architectural differences between regular pd and pd-l2ork but
> >>>>>>>>> I
> >> doubt
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> since most of the said components are very similar if not
> >> identical.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The bottom line is this only occurs on very low-powered
> >>>>>>>>> machines
> >>>> (e.g.
> >>>>>>>>> netbook) and relatively large patches and even then it does so
> >>>>>>>>> very sporadically. Consequently, I implemented an improvement
> >>>>>>>>> to the
> >>>> closing
> >>>>>>>>> mechanism that consists of 2 additional steps and apparently
> >>>> alleviates
> >>>>>>>> said
> >>>>>>>>> problems entirely:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 1) disable further redraws (this prevents calling functions
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >> may
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>> referencing null pointers)--I have a special global var for
> >>>>>>>>> this
> >>>> which
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> also being used to optimize redrawing (many actions in
> >>>>>>>>> pd-l2ork are
> >>>>>>>> several
> >>>>>>>>> times faster than regular pd as a result of this
> >> implementation--just
> >>>>>>>> look
> >>>>>>>>> for do_not_redraw call in the source if curious)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2) suspend dsp before going through the patches (all
> >>>>>>>>> sub-patches
> >> try
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> suspend it and resume it but for some reason, due to
> >>>>>>>>> asynchronous
> >>>>>> nature
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> communication between tcl and c funny things occasionally
> >>>>>>>>> happen on low-powered machines, so this way we ensure it is
> >>>>>>>>> entirely off
> >>>>>> throughout
> >>>>>>>>> the whole destruction process)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hope this helps!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> >>>>>>>>> Composition, Music Technology
> >>>>>>>>> Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio
> >>>>>>>>> Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Head, ICAT IMPACT
> >>>>>>>>> Studio Virginia Tech Dept. of Music - 0240 Blacksburg, VA
> >>>>>>>>> 24061
> >>>>>>>>> (540) 231-6139
> >>>>>>>>> (540) 231-5034 (fax)
> >>>>>>>>> ico at vt.edu
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >