[PD] 1-inlet [list] : bug? WAS: enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Strange, you're is trying a blank object name:

> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
> tried ./.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.pd_linux and failed
> tried .l_ia64 and failed
> tried .pd_linux and failed
> tried -meta.pd and failed
> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'!

What does this tell you:

ls -l /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux

.hc


On 01/21/2013 06:06 PM, Julian Brooks wrote:
> Hey Hans,
> 
> Apologies for the delay...
> 
> $ pd-extended -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nrt
> input channels = 0, output channels = 0
> Pd-0.43.4 ("extended-20130107") compiled 06:37:26 Jan  7 2013
> port 5400
> TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-extended/lib/tcl/library"
> TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-extended/lib/tk/library"   wish8.5
> "/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-gui.tcl" 5400
> Waiting for connection request...
> ... connected
> opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s).
> input channels = 0, output channels = 0
> verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup.
> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/0.libdir.pd_linux
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded
> verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9
> verbose(3):     compiled on Jan  7 2013 at 06:42:56
> verbose(3):     compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended-20130107
> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
> tried ./.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.pd_linux and failed
> tried .l_ia64 and failed
> tried .pd_linux and failed
> tried -meta.pd and failed
> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup
> library'!
> 
> verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/extra
> tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
> tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/extra/extra-meta.pd and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/extra/extra-meta.pd and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded
> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra'
> verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/pdlua
> tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded
> verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on
> verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen <
> claudiusmaximus at goto10.org>
> verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan  7 2013 06:42:56
> verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/tclpd
> tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded
> verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0
> verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load
> /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl...
> verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/tclpd/tclpd.tcl
> verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/vanilla
> tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
> tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed
> tried /home/julian/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed
> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed
> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded
> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass path
> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from
> '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/vanilla'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 January 2013 21:58, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hey Julian,
>>
>> Can you run this and send me the results:
>>
>> $ pd-extended -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nrt
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Julian Brooks wrote:
>>> Yip yip - same here:
>>>
>>> 0.43.4-extended-20130107
>>>
>>> WARNING: 64-bit builds are still beta, some libraries are known to have
>>> serious issues (cyclone, maxlib, moonlib, moocow, pdp, bsaylor, etc.)
>>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl/../startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup
>>> library'!
>>>
>>>
>>> [list] has only one inlet.
>>>
>>> Debian Sid/Wheezy 64b.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 January 2013 21:26, batinste <dwanafite at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Weirder and weirder. Pd-ext still cannot load 1.list.pd_linux. I get
>>>>
>>>> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load
>> startup
>>>> library'!
>>>>
>>>> but :
>>>>
>>>> ~$ ls /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ | grep list
>>>> 1.list.pd_linux
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So i deinstalled the last auto-build of Pd-extended for ubuntu 12.10
>> x64 :
>>>>
>>>> ~$ sudo dpkg --purge pd-extended
>>>> (Lecture de la base de données... 303007 fichiers et répertoires déjà
>>>> installés.)
>>>> Suppression de pd-extended ...
>>>> Purge des fichiers de configuration de pd-extended ...
>>>> dpkg : avertissement : while removing pd-extended, directory
>>>> '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra' not empty so not removed
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
>> hicolor-icon-theme
>>>> »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »...
>>>> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
>> desktop-file-utils
>>>> »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info
>>>> »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »...
>>>>
>>>> in the extra directory are ANN library and the missing earplug_data.txt.
>>>> It shouldn't interfere with the rest.
>>>>
>>>> Then i removed preferences backups i did in my /home/me : .pdextended,
>>>> .pdextended~, .pdextended.**thisoneactuallyworks, etc :)
>>>>
>>>> Then, downloaded Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb from
>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.**info/auto-build/latest/<
>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/>and
>>>>
>>>> ~$ sudo dpkg -i Desktop/Pd-0.43.4-extended-**ubuntu-quantal-amd64.deb
>>>> Sélection du paquet pd-extended précédemment désélectionné.
>>>> (Lecture de la base de données... 295934 fichiers et répertoires déjà
>>>> installés.)
>>>> Dépaquetage de pd-extended (à partir de
>> .../Pd-0.43.4-extended-ubuntu-**quantal-amd64.deb)
>>>> ...
>>>> Paramétrage de pd-extended (0.43.4-extended) ...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « ureadahead »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « shared-mime-info
>>>> »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « menu »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « man-db »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « bamfdaemon »...
>>>> Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf.**index...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
>> desktop-file-utils
>>>> »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour « gnome-menus »...
>>>> Traitement des actions différées (« triggers ») pour «
>> hicolor-icon-theme
>>>> »...
>>>>
>>>> and finally
>>>> :~$ pd-extended -stderr -verbose
>>>> input channels = 0, output channels = 0
>>>> Pd-0.43.4 ("extended") compiled 09:20:08 Jan 20 2013
>>>> port 5400
>>>> TCL_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tcl/library"
>>>> TK_LIBRARY="/usr/lib/pd-**extended/lib/tk/library"   wish8.5
>>>> "/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl//pd-**gui.tcl" 5400
>>>> priority 6 scheduling enabled.
>>>> Waiting for connection request...
>>>> priority 8 scheduling enabled.
>>>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/pd-**watchdog
>>>> ... connected
>>>> opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s).
>>>> input channels = 0, output channels = 0
>>>> Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.**conf", line 9: reading
>>>> configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
>>>> verbose(5): Using /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup as startup.
>>>> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**0.libdir.pd_linux
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**libdir/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded
>>>> verbose(3): libdir loader 1.9
>>>> verbose(3):     compiled on Jan 20 2013 at 09:23:51
>>>> verbose(3):     compiled against Pd version 0.43.4.extended
>>>> verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux
>>>> tried ./`Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./`Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./`Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/`**Lp/`Lp.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried -meta.pd and failed
>>>> error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**1.list.pd_linux: can't load
>> startup
>>>> library'!
>>>>
>>>> verbose(4): Loading extra in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**extra
>>>> tried ./extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried ./extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried ./extra/extra-meta.pd and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**extra/extra-meta.pd and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/extra-meta.pd and succeeded
>>>> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'extra' to the global objectclass path
>>>> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'extra' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**
>>>> extra'
>>>> verbose(4): Loading pdlua in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**pdlua
>>>> tried ./pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**pdlua/pdlua.pd_linux and succeeded
>>>> watchdog: signaling pd...
>>>> verbose(3): pdlua 0.7.1 (GPL) 2012 Martin Peach, based on
>>>> verbose(3): lua 0.6~svn (GPL) 2008 Claude Heiland-Allen <
>>>> claudiusmaximus at goto10.org>
>>>> verbose(3): pdlua: compiled for pd-0.43 on Jan 20 2013 09:23:51
>>>> verbose(4): Loading tclpd in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**tclpd
>>>> tried ./tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.pd_linux and succeeded
>>>> verbose(3): tclpd loader v0.3.0
>>>> verbose(3): tclpd: trying to load /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**
>>>> tclpd/tclpd.tcl...
>>>> verbose(3): tclpd: loaded /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**tclpd/tclpd.tcl
>>>> verbose(4): Loading vanilla in /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/**vanilla
>>>> tried ./vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and
>> failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried ./vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and
>>>> failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried ./vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and
>>>> failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/vanilla-meta.pd and succeeded
>>>> verbose(3): libdir_loader: added 'vanilla' to the global objectclass
>> path
>>>> verbose(14): Loaded libdir 'vanilla' from '/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**
>>>> vanilla'
>>>>
>>>> If i try to open a new patch and create and [list], it has only one
>> inlet.
>>>>
>>>> then i restart pd-ext, and If i try to open a new patch and [import
>> list],
>>>> i get
>>>>
>>>> tried /home/batinste/list.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/**list.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**list.l_ia64 and failed
>>>> tried /home/batinste/list.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**extra/list.pd_linux and failed
>>>> tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/**vanilla/list.pd_linux and succeeded
>>>> verbose(3): [import] loaded library: 'list'
>>>>
>>>> Then i try to create a [list], it has 2 inlets.
>>>>
>>>> my .pdextended :
>>>>
>>>> audioapi: 2
>>>> noaudioin: True
>>>> noaudioout: True
>>>> audiobuf: 50
>>>> rate: 44100
>>>> callback: 0
>>>> blocksize: 64
>>>> nomidiin: True
>>>> nomidiout: True
>>>> npath: 0
>>>> standardpath: 1
>>>> verbose: 1
>>>> nloadlib: 0
>>>> defeatrt: 0
>>>> flags:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> my /usr/lib/pd-extended/default.**pdextended :
>>>>
>>>> audioapi: 1
>>>> standardpath: 1
>>>> verbose: 0
>>>> defeatrt: 0
>>>> flags:
>>>> loadlib1: Gem
>>>> loadlib2: cyclone
>>>> loadlib3: zexy
>>>> loadlib4: creb
>>>> loadlib5: cxc
>>>> loadlib6: iemlib
>>>> loadlib7: list-abs
>>>> loadlib8: mapping
>>>> loadlib9: markex
>>>> loadlib10: maxlib
>>>> loadlib11: mjlib
>>>> loadlib12: motex
>>>> loadlib13: oscx
>>>> loadlib14: pddp
>>>> loadlib15: pdogg
>>>> loadlib16: pmpd
>>>> loadlib17: sigpack
>>>> loadlib18: smlib
>>>> loadlib19: unauthorized
>>>> loadlib20: pan
>>>> loadlib21: hcs
>>>> loadlib22: jmmmp
>>>> loadlib23: ext13
>>>> loadlib24: ggee
>>>> loadlib25: iem_anything
>>>> loadlib26: ekext
>>>> loadlib27: flatgui
>>>> loadlib28: chaos
>>>> loadlib29: pdp
>>>> nloadlib: 29
>>>> path1: /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-**conf.d/dirs/TrueType
>>>> npath: 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> if it's a bug, i'll happily file it.
>>>>
>>>> On 21/01/2013 02:41, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:52 PM, batinste wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 20/01/2013 21:02, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/20/2013 06:36 AM, batinste wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was intrigued by this [$@< bug (mainly because i didn't knew about
>>>>>>>> this $@
>>>>>>>> thingy), so i decided to give it a try. Attached is my test patch.
>> It
>>>>>>>> crashes
>>>>>>>> on my ubuntu 12.10 64bits, Pd-l2ork version 20130111 compiled
>> 13:18:07
>>>>>>>> Jan 11
>>>>>>>> 2013, way before reaching 1000 args. I launch it in my terminal
>> with :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~$ pd-l2ork test-dollar-at.pd
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All i have to do is continuously move my mouse over the patch while
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> running, and it will crash around 100 args. You can also try to play
>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>> vslider, it will crash. OR (curiously), it won't crash when moving
>> the
>>>>>>>> mouse,
>>>>>>>> but going in and out of edit mode or saving will make it crash...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On a side note, look at the patch cord going out of the vslider : it
>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>> weird to me, like attached a few pixels under the vslider, not
>> directly
>>>>>>>> connected to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's worth a bug report!  It worked for me: I left it alone for a
>>>>>>> while and
>>>>>>> it went to 24817, then once I clicked in the patch, it crashed
>>>>>>> instantly.
>>>>>>> Batinste, could you file a bug report and include your patch?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ok !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok now, the fun part :
>>>>>>>> When i open this patch with pd-extended (Pd-0.43.4
>>>>>>>> ("extended-20130118")
>>>>>>>> compiled 09:30:52 Jan 18 2013), [list] only has one inlet (it should
>>>>>>>> have 2,
>>>>>>>> given that it's supposed to behave like [list append]) and when i
>> want
>>>>>>>> to see
>>>>>>>> [list]'s help file, pd-ext opens bang's help file... When i open the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> patch with pd-l2ork, the lists do have 2 inlets. Oh, and pd-extended
>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>> to display lists with their 2 inlets, but i can't reproduce this
>>>>>>>> reliably. I
>>>>>>>> tried to open the patch with -noprefs (to ensure that i didn't have
>> a
>>>>>>>> forgotten [list] abstraction somewhere) same issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am i cursed or something ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never seen the [list] with the single inlet bug.  Can you send
>> me
>>>>>>> a patch
>>>>>>> to reproduce it?  I think that would happen if you run 'pd-extended
>>>>>>> -nostartup' which will prevent the list lib from being automatically
>>>>>>> loaded at
>>>>>>> startup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -noprefs won't disable loading from ~/pd-externals or
>>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/pd-externals since that's hard coded in Pd.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  oops my bad, i did not see this : error:
>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/
>>>>>> **1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'!
>>>>>> It was with the patch i attached earlier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where you able to fix that error? That file is definitely included in
>> the
>>>>> packages that I've tried.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 20/01/2013 07:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu>
>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' <jancsika at yahoo.com>; 'Hans-Christoph
>> Steiner'
>>>>>>>>>> <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: pd-list at iem.at
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     > Why not simply use pd-l2ork?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    I do, but possible reasons why someone might not use Pd-l2ork:
>>>>>>>>>>>    * no binary for windows
>>>>>>>>>>>    * no binary for OSX
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On the flip-side pd-l2ork provides a solid, bug-free environment
>> on
>>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>>> and looks a lot more contemporary than the aged default tk
>>>>>>>>>> iteration. In
>>>>>>>>>> other words, it is a targeted Linux distribution of pd (something
>>>>>>>>>> that can
>>>>>>>>>> be easily lost in a cross-platform effort with inadequate
>> developer
>>>>>>>>>> support,
>>>>>>>>>> as I am sure Hans can attest to). At this point I would go as far
>> as
>>>>>>>>>> challenge you to find something that does not work or exhibits a
>>>>>>>>>> buggy
>>>>>>>>>> behavior
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $@ in msg box probably still crashes when incoming args > 1000
>> (same
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> pd-extended)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>
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