[PD] Apply missing

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 2 08:06:51 CET 2013





----- Original Message -----
> From: Max <abonnements at revolwear.com>
> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> Cc: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>; PD list <pd-list at iem.at>
> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 1:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [PD] Apply missing
> 
> Am 27.01.2012 um 17:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>:
>>  On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  From: Max <abonnements at revolwear.com>
>>>>  Am 27.01.2012 um 02:50 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>>>>>  On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 22:51 +0100, Max wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  i noticed that in the current autobuilds of Pd-extended the 
> property 
>>>>  dialogs for the gui-objects are missing the Apply-Button. Is that a 
> bug or a 
>>>>  feature?
>>>>>>  IMHO this is a bug - if you want to adjust for instance a 
> canvas to be 
>>>>  the same size as another object of unknown size you can do that 
> with a few 
>>>>  clicks and the help of the Apply button. If you have to click OK 
> and then go to 
>>>>  context menu->Properties, set the size, OK repeately to do that 
> it's 
>>>>  simply annoying.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>  That seems like a good enough reason, I brought back the Apply 
> button to
>>>>>  the iemgui Properties panel on Mac OS X.  It was originally 
> moved since
>>>>>  the whole "OK, Apply, Cancel" is very Windows-like, 
> but there 
>>>>  isn't an
>>>>>  easy way to make to work better, so the Apply button is back.  
> IMHO,
>>>>>  when you change the setting, it should take effect immediately.
>>>> 
>>>>  great. i agree that ideally i'd like to be able to see that 
> change happen 
>>>>  immediately. even better: when grabbing the bottom-right corner 
> i'd have an 
>>>>  anchor to scale the object (see Max/MSP for that)…
>>> 
>>>  Also see: pd-l2ork
>> 
>>  I think you are referring to Ico trying to make the iemguis resizable live 
> with a handle.  I should finally get to releasing something useful form the 
> tkwidgets lib, since that also includes resizing with a handle.
> 
> I just had another Idea how to solve this: Two buttons: Cancel and OK when you 
> change some properties in the Dialog the OK Button becomes labeled Apply. If 
> clicked on Apply, the new properties are applied and the Button becomes labeled 
> OK. If you click OK the Dialog is closed.
> That way a double click on Apply will apply and close the dialog.

That would double the number of clicks for users who never want to use
Apply.

-Jonathan




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