[PD] Apply missing

[Ivica Bukvic]

Speaking of Microsoft-like statements, are you apologizing for the fact
that pd-extended's undo is bad or the fact that you misrepresented
pd-l2ork's undo as being incomplete? ;-)
On Feb 3, 2013 10:31 AM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at at.or.at> wrote:

>
> I stand corrected, sorry, I was mistaken before.  Yes, the undo situation
> in
> Pd vanilla/extended is not good.
>
> I didn't realize I'd become Microsoft, I thought I was just writing some
> software for people to freely use ;-)
>
> .hc
>
> On 02/03/2013 09:58 AM, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
> > Those are a part of the undo on pd-l2ork, as is changing properties of
> any
> > other object, such as canvas and array (unlike pd-extended that in many
> > cases fails to even acknowledge that the patch has been altered and needs
> > to be saved, needless to mention add such change to its 1-step undo
> queue,
> > e.g. try changing canvas properties and undoing it).
> >
> > It would be nice if not spreading FUD were added to the mailing list
> > netiquette...
> > On Feb 3, 2013 5:07 AM, "Roman Haefeli" <reduzent at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Son, 2013-02-03 at 00:25 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> >>>>>> states.  The first part o that is not hard, the second part is.  But
> >>> since
> >>>>>> unlimited undo is working in some parts of pd-l2ork, we at least
> >> have a
> >>>>>> working example to draw from.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you mean by "in some parts?" Can you give an example of where
> >>>> it
> >>>>> does not work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Setting a value in the properties of a slider.
> >>>
> >>> You are kidding, right? If the value changes in the UI, this should not
> >> be
> >>> undoable. Otherwise, having that slider connected to a [metro 1]  and
> >> random
> >>> would starve memory within minutes, needless to mention make undo
> >> completely
> >>> useless...
> >>
> >> I guess Hans is talking about properties like color, sendname etc. The
> >> rationale is that those might be considered to be part of patch editing
> >> as opposed to changing slider values which could be considered part of
> >> patch usage.
> >>
> >> Roman
> >>
> >>
> >>
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