hello 'list', (Windows 7, VAIO 4Gb AMD 1.65 Ghz 64-bits). Pdext from download page. it took quit some time to find out why my patch, working in 42.5 didn't in 43.4: [read file.txt( | [msgfile] crashes Pd without any message. even using the commandline with -stderr doesn't give anything. something missing or a bug? rolf meesters