[PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43

Sat Feb 16 20:37:07 CET 2013

When I say that it switches back to that language I mean Pd itself, not
just comments, but the menus and everything..

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Björn Eriksson <miulew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for this news!! The youtube was excellent in explaining some
> things aswell!
> I should know better but I am not using the command line so much in
> the win7 machine i am on, should i write "LANG=pt
> c:/program/pd/pd-extended"  The folder pd is installed at is
> program/pd    but seems i have some problems with the syntax...
> should it be backslashes?
>
> All the best,
> /björn
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> wrote:
> >
> > You can also do that LANG=pt trick on Windows and Mac OS X, but you have
> to
> > use the full path to pd/bin/pd instead of just 'pd-extended'.
> >
> > If someone has written in a patch in their own language, the patch will
> always
> > be in that language.  There is currently no way to have patches with
> > translations of the text.  Its something I think we should add for
> tutorials
> > and reference docs.
> >
> > .hc
> >
> > On 02/16/2013 01:37 PM, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
> >> Hans-Christoph Steiner made this video explaining how to open Pd from
> the
> >> command line with the preferred language
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkSmIAleMc
> >> Although if you open it in English for example and then open a patch you
> >> made in another language it will most likely switch to that language, as
> >> far as my experience tells me..
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Björn Eriksson <miulew at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You can also delete the files within the po folder at the installation
> >>> folder. Then you will have (only) english menus.
> >>>
> >>> I have a related question. I am running a beginners course on Pd
> >>> (distance course) and in the group there are at least 3 or 4 different
> >>> languages. Added to that is also that some people are in different
> >>> countries. So for the students in Sweden (where I am based) most of
> >>> them get the swedish language selected on install, but by different
> >>> reasons would like to have english och portuguese. They´re also on
> >>> different platforms.
> >>>
> >>> My question is this... can it be possible to independently select a
> >>> preferred language regardless what the OS is suggesting and force
> >>> another language to be showed?
> >>>
> >>> /Björn Eriksson
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Òscar Martínez Carmona
> >>> <xamps23 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Sorry, you've just answered that! Thanx!
> >>>>
> >>>> El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Òscar Martínez Carmona ha escrit:
> >>>>
> >>>>> How do I switch it back to English?
> >>>>> I appreciate the spanish version but English looks much cooler!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> El divendres 15 de febrer de 2013, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha escrit:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using.  If
> >>> not,
> >>>>>> its
> >>>>>> a bug.  Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is
> >>>>>> configured
> >>>>>> in and uses that.  Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess
> >>> people
> >>>>>> buy
> >>>>>> systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock
> doesn't
> >>>>>> seem
> >>>>>> to respect that change.  You can check the language of your Dock and
> >>> your
> >>>>>> global locale by running this in the Terminal:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> defaults read com.apple.dock loc
> >>>>>> defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like
> this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar
> reason.
> >>>>>> As far
> >>>>>> as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail
> to
> >>>>>> respect
> >>>>>> the user setting?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .hc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
> >>>>>>> How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac
> >>> for
> >>>>>>> 0.43
> >>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>> I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the
> >>>>>>> readme
> >>>>>>> for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also
> seems
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>> no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I
> >>>>>>> could
> >>>>>>> find).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me.
> >>>>>>> Is there a more elegant way to do this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that
> >>>>>>> "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their
> native
> >>>>>>> language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines
> >>>>>>> and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even
> >>> though
> >>>>>>> every single one of them runs all software on their machine in
> >>> English
> >>>>>>> only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language
> is
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>> the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want
> to
> >>>>>>> use
> >>>>>>> their software in?
> >>>>>>> Just my two cents.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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