[PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I don't think it would be super complicated to implement.  I think the easiest
way would be to implement it as a GUI preference, so that would be all Tcl
code.  Check out pd/tcl/pd_guiprefs.tcl for the API.  And you can see
load_locale in tcl/pd-gui.tcl

.hc

On 02/21/2013 02:36 AM, Björn Eriksson wrote:
> Hello,
> I am following this thread with interest and step by step starting to
> understand the implications.
> Just a curious wonder... is it very complicated to implement a new
> functionality where a specific .msg file is selected and wanted
> language choosen, at least temporarily until next active choice?
> 
> Realize it´s not there... but thinking ahead.
> 
> /Björn Eriksson
> 
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to CC the list in case anyone else wants to change this value.
>>
>> Tcl looks at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International\locale in particular.  Its a number.  This is not Pd-specific, I imagine its used by lots of apps, and perhaps even the system itself.  I wouldn't recommend changing it directly, it might mess things up.  There should be a way to change the Windows system so that it is set properly in English.
>>
>> If you really just want to force Pd-extended to be in English, the safest route is to delete all the .msg files in  \Program Files\pd\po
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:34 AM, rene beekman wrote:
>>
>>> Hans, I'm replyting off-list so we don't burden the list with this.
>>> Attached are screenshots from the registry entries on two of the
>>> machines. As you can see from the menus of regedit itself, the OS is
>>> running in English, though I am not sure where that is set in the
>>> International settings.
>>> Some of the other machines (I'm waiting for their owners to mail the
>>> screenshots to me) have localeName set to en_US en location to US, but
>>> Pd still opens in Bulgarian.
>>> I'll send the other screenshots when I get them.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Rene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Run 'regedit' in the Run command thing on the start menu, and look for:
>>>>
>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On 02/18/2013 12:57 AM, rene beekman wrote:
>>>>> Hans, thanks for the reply
>>>>>
>>>>> On the Mac it works for me.
>>>>> Applelocale reports en_BG and Pd properly shows up in English.
>>>>>
>>>>> The windows machines I will be able to check tomorrow evening.
>>>>> How do I find the proper registry keys there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:54:35 -0500
>>>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] Changing the defaul language in 0.43
>>>>>> To: pd-list at iem.at
>>>>>> Message-ID: <511E4C2B.2030908 at at.or.at>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pd-extended should use the same language that the user is using.  If not, its
>>>>>> a bug.  Pd-extended on Mac OS X looks at what language the Dock is configured
>>>>>> in and uses that.  Apparently, this is not reliable, since I guess people buy
>>>>>> systems in one language, then use them in another, and the Dock doesn't seem
>>>>>> to respect that change.  You can check the language of your Dock and your
>>>>>> global locale by running this in the Terminal:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> defaults read com.apple.dock loc
>>>>>> defaults read NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The easiest fix it to probably set the language of the Dock like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> defaults write com.apple.dock loc en_US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea why its failing on Windows, maybe for a similar reason.  As far
>>>>>> as I could tell, Pd-extended uses the 'proper' registry value:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you send the value of that registry key on machines that fail to respect
>>>>>> the user setting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/15/2013 01:03 AM, rene beekman wrote:
>>>>>>> How do I set / change the default language on both Windoze and Mac for 0.43
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> I don't have a Windoze machine myself, so can't test there, but the readme
>>>>>>> for the Mac version does not say anything about it. There also seems to be
>>>>>>> no setting in the preference file for this (or at least none that I could
>>>>>>> find).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I searched the list-archives and the "best" instruction I found was to
>>>>>>> delete all .msg files inside /po, which seems a bit crude to me.
>>>>>>> Is there a more elegant way to do this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand from an older discussion that the assumption was that
>>>>>>> "non-technical" people were assumed to want to use Pd in their native
>>>>>>> language. I did installs this week on about a dozen machines
>>>>>>> and apparently they all belonged to "non-technical" people, even though
>>>>>>> every single one of them runs all software on their machine in English
>>>>>>> only... Wouldn't it be wiser to assume that whatever the language is that
>>>>>>> the OS is running in, is also the language that people really want to use
>>>>>>> their software in?
>>>>>>> Just my two cents.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> <a.png><b.png><registry editor.jpg><registry editor2.jpg>
>>
>>
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