[PD] GUI overload

[Ivica Ico Bukvic]

I just discovered that my apparent GUI stutter came from "tear free" being
enabled on in my AMD/fglrx video card control panel (go figure). So, my
report may not be complete/accurate. I will reenable the flag and
investigate further.

As for trying pd-l2ork you can always compile it using the instructions
provided online which are fairly simply even for a newcomer.

Best wishes,

Ico

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Kelly [mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:41 PM
> To: Ivica Ico Bukvic; 'Jonathan Wilkes'; 'Miller Puckette'
> Cc: pd-list at iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] GUI overload
> 
> OK. Right now the change Miller suggested to the source code is the only
> way I can run my patch and have the GUI work at all, so I'm keeping my
main
> machine equipped with this change to Pd vanilla 0.43 with libs compiled,
> rather than Pd-extended 0.43-4. If Miller can work out how this works, why
> my GUI doesn't work, and how to get the best of both worlds then great.
> 
> I have another machine with Pd-extended on it, and will test the patch
there
> as soon as I've made the new (and old) Metastudio abstractions work with
> 0.43.
> 
> Note that I'm using a single Pd with no networking. Perhaps the way that
the
> network objects and the GUI are implemented conflicts in some way, or
> creates a bottleneck somewhere, for Pd-l2ork. My Pd patch, with 45 GOP
> abstractions in the master patch and 4 quadtracker objects (see enclosed
.ps)
> runs really smoothly with the patch applied, but the GUI doesn't work at
all
> without it.
> 
> 
> Sorry, but I can't test the latest Pd-l2ork because I'm running Ubuntu
10.04. I
> won't upgrade now because I have pieces to finish and gigs coming up.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ed
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> >________________________________
> > From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico at vt.edu>
> >To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' <jancsika at yahoo.com>; 'Miller Puckette'
> <msp at ucsd.edu>
> >Cc: pd-list at iem.at
> >Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013, 4:03
> >Subject: Re: [PD] GUI overload
> >
> >> > OK, so I had several L2Ork rehearsals on new machines with this patch
> >> > applied and I can confirm that this is actually a regression. GUI in
> >heavy
> >> > traffic situations gets visibly sluggish and falls behind, so to say.
> >This
> >> > still leaves the only notable difference between pd-l2ork and pd that
> >has so
> >> > far proven pd-l2ork resistant to the problems encountered below and
> >> those
> >> > have to do with the way how pd-l2ork has altered both
> >> netsend/netreceive and
> >> > also provided its own disis_netsend/receive externals that have been
> >> > reported before on this list to have fixed similar gui freeze
issues...
> >>
> >> Why is it disis_netsend/receive and not simply a fixed netsend/receive?
> >Did
> >> you change the interface in some way?
> >>
> >> -Jonathan
> >
> >Those have additional features (e.g. UDP broadcast, obviously operation
> >without gui hiccups, as well as enqueing messages and dumping them all at
> >once) that I implemented as separate externals before forking pd-l2ork so
I
> >did it in a way that did not mess with the core pd. Since then, I fixed
> >netsend/receive in the core part of Pd as well but kept those for
backwards
> >compatibility purposes unaltered.
> >
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