[PD] Pd Development "Reverse Kickstarter"

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Tue May 14 19:21:42 CEST 2013

On 05/14/2013 10:34 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
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> On 14/05/13 08:47, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>> On 2013-05-13 23:26, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>> * adding a function to make it easy to parse comma-separated
>>> A_GIMME args to an object as named args.
> [snip]
>> personally i would go for something much simpler when using
>> comma-args:
> [snip]
>> it all boils down to sending initialization messages to an object
>> right after it was created.
>> the nice thing about this is, that it doesn't require *any* changes
>> on the object's side in order to be able to use it out of the box
>> in *most* cases.
> Yes, I really like this syntax and having it as standard would be
> really very nice.
>> i've been thinking about implementing this for some time now
>> (though i never found any time to do it)...i just wanted to through
>> it into discussion before there are several competing uses of
>> comma-separated A_GIMME args.
> GridFlow has this syntax already for all its C++ classes (not sure
> about [#expr], actually), and maybe the [args] object in GridFlow
> supports it too for abstractions:
> [object some arguments, message to object, another message]
> However, this will conflict with:
> [expr],[expr~],[fexpr~]
> [lexpr] (expr that can change expression on the fly; pdlua example)

Plus [list], [sel], and probably lots of others.  Commas get sent
as symbols to all those objects, so it's possible someone (like me)
used that as a way to parse messages in Pd.  (I don't make use
of those methods anymore, but maybe other people do.)


> I think it would be best if typed creators and A_GIMME supported it
> (so most classes would get this bonus feature automatically), if you
> need the commas explicitly as arguments then perhaps A_GIMME_MORE
> could be defined with the current behaviour, so fixing externals that
> need it (a tiny minority?) would be a 5-character change.
> Claude
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