[PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

Alexandre Torres Porres porres at gmail.com
Fri May 31 07:38:21 CEST 2013


> Looking for dual booting in Macs I found that:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html

wow, that seems much harder than I expected from a "ready to go"
installation like Ubuntu. It seems that the pain in the ass is all over for
getting linux into a Mac. Lots of issues that dont seem to be there on a PC.

Or maybe not that much development/support yet to help mac users into
Linux... but I dount so, as I see people using linux on a mac all the time.
What's the trick?

I like when you say "any kernel tuned for realtime should work". That makes
sense and gave me hope to work it out easily, as i think there might be
many choices out there.

Things were much easier on the Pi :) just burn the installed image to the
drive. I bet that'd be possible for closed systems such as Mac computers,
right? Maybe some day...

cheers


2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>

> Looking for dual booting in Macs I found that:
> http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html
>
> Maybe if you have problems with wireless:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2011756
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>
>> To install pd-extended, you need run the command: sudo apt-get install
>> pd-extended
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>
>>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>>
>>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>>>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>>>
>>>> To install ardour:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>>
>>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>>
>>>> 3) it is!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances
>>>>>>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency
>>>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>>>>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3
>>>>>>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more
>>>>>>>> powerful than soundflower...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same
>>>>>>>>>> machine and
>>>>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on
>>>>>>>>> windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with
>>>>>>>>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to
>>>>>>>>>> tweak
>>>>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly
>>>>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now.
>>>>>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended
>>>>>>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna
>>>>>>>>>> enjoy the
>>>>>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular
>>>>>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being
>>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one")
>>>>>>>>>> linux
>>>>>>>>>> distribution in it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at
>>>>>>>>>> least)
>>>>>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works
>>>>>>>>>> well on
>>>>>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm
>>>>>>>>>> missing is
>>>>>>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot  adapter works in Linux. That'd
>>>>>>>>>> be cool,
>>>>>>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't comment on those.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lorenzo.
>>>>>>>>>
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