[PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

cool you're coming!

by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011

cheers

2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>

> Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac (
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
>
> I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac
> to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
>
> If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact
> me and we can try something together..
>
>
> 2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>
>> Hum... :/
>>
>> Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
>>
>> All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems
>> some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
>>
>> First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
>>
>> If it's possible, you can try this tutorial:
>> http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
>>
>> Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>
>>> > it says "no bootable device - press any key"
>>>
>>> KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue.
>>> Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for
>>> dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> hmm, no luck
>>>>
>>>> well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a
>>>> installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got
>>>> parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the
>>>> software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive,
>>>> but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it
>>>> didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and
>>>> boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the
>>>> DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device -
>>>> press any key"
>>>>
>>>> This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for
>>>> it. Maybe some other distribution?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>>>>>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To install ardour:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) it is!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>>>>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>>>>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>>>>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>>>>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances
>>>>>>>>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency
>>>>>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>>>>>>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>>>>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3
>>>>>>>>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux
>>>>>>>>> Light.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more
>>>>>>>>>> powerful than soundflower...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs
>>>>>>>>>>>> smoother in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine and
>>>>>>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on
>>>>>>>>>>> windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd
>>>>>>>>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you
>>>>>>>>>>>> to tweak
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an
>>>>>>>>>>>> absurdly
>>>>>>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now.
>>>>>>>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended
>>>>>>>>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna
>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy the
>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular
>>>>>>>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like
>>>>>>>>>>>> being next
>>>>>>>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best
>>>>>>>>>>>> one") linux
>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at
>>>>>>>>>>>> least)
>>>>>>>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works
>>>>>>>>>>>> well on
>>>>>>>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> missing is
>>>>>>>>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot  adapter works in Linux. That'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> be cool,
>>>>>>>>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't comment on those.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lorenzo.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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