[PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

Pedro Lopes plopesresearch at gmail.com
Fri May 31 19:01:21 CEST 2013 

Mine is a MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)

I run Ubuntu (last stable) and all drivers work. Including wifi and the
likes. Touchpad needs additional tweeking though and have not yet had the
time for that.

I need macosx to lecture at the university and I ran pd there without any
issues, trough jack (I basically have replicated setups on both linux and
mac).

best,
pedro

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres
<porres at gmail.com>wrote:

> cool you're coming!
>
> by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011
>
> cheers
>
> 2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>
>> Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac (
>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
>>
>> I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac
>> to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
>>
>> If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact
>> me and we can try something together..
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hum... :/
>>>
>>> Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
>>>
>>> All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems
>>> some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
>>>
>>> First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
>>>
>>> If it's possible, you can try this tutorial:
>>> http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
>>>
>>> Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> > it says "no bootable device - press any key"
>>>>
>>>> KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue.
>>>> Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for
>>>> dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> hmm, no luck
>>>>>
>>>>> well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a
>>>>> installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got
>>>>> parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the
>>>>> software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive,
>>>>> but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it
>>>>> didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and
>>>>> boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the
>>>>> DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device -
>>>>> press any key"
>>>>>
>>>>> This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for
>>>>> it. Maybe some other distribution?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and
>>>>>>> tecnology workshops I do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To install ardour:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) it is!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring"
>>>>>>>> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try,
>>>>>>>> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm
>>>>>>>> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air.
>>>>>>>> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime
>>>>>>>>>> performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least
>>>>>>>>>> low-latency kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>>>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>>>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency
>>>>>>>>>> kernels preconfigured.
>>>>>>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these
>>>>>>>>>> 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux
>>>>>>>>>> Light.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>>>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more
>>>>>>>>>>> powerful than soundflower...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoother in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it
>>>>>>>>>>>> on windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd
>>>>>>>>>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tweak
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> absurdly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended
>>>>>>>>>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being next
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one") linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot  adapter works in Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'd be cool,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't comment on those.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lorenzo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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