[PD] linux best for pd? / "best linux" for Pd? / On a Mac?

Alexandre Torres Porres porres at gmail.com
Fri May 31 19:10:17 CEST 2013 

Nice, just so we're all on the same page, the thing Esteban mentioned about
"any RT ready distro works" makes sense, right?

I can forget about the idea someone gave that the more hard to install and
configure something, the better (like slackware). So something like Ubuntu
Studio does the trick as well as anything else, right?

So, besides what you mentioned, is there any other option to chose from?

Here's what I got:

- Ubuntu Studio

And three that are based on Ubuntu Studio, or Ubuntu...

- KXstudio
- Shumamis Linux Light
- DreamStudio

Anything else?

And what happened to Puredyne? Was it killed? Page is offline...


So all I need to do is work the booting crap out and have fun... cool. Will
do.

thanks


2013/5/31 Pedro Lopes <plopesresearch at gmail.com>

> Mine is a MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)
>
> I run Ubuntu (last stable) and all drivers work. Including wifi and the
> likes. Touchpad needs additional tweeking though and have not yet had the
> time for that.
>
> I need macosx to lecture at the university and I ran pd there without any
> issues, trough jack (I basically have replicated setups on both linux and
> mac).
>
> best,
> pedro
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> cool you're coming!
>>
>> by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> 2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac (
>>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
>>>
>>> I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac
>>> to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
>>>
>>> If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact
>>> me and we can try something together..
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hum... :/
>>>>
>>>> Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
>>>>
>>>> All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems
>>>> some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
>>>>
>>>> First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
>>>>
>>>> If it's possible, you can try this tutorial:
>>>> http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
>>>>
>>>> Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> > it says "no bootable device - press any key"
>>>>>
>>>>> KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue.
>>>>> Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for
>>>>> dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hmm, no luck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a
>>>>>> installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got
>>>>>> parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the
>>>>>> software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive,
>>>>>> but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it
>>>>>> didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and
>>>>>> boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the
>>>>>> DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device -
>>>>>> press any key"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for
>>>>>> it. Maybe some other distribution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry... Reply all...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music
>>>>>>>> and tecnology workshops I do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To install ardour:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T  , it will open terminal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) it is!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore
>>>>>>>>> configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this
>>>>>>>>> Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this
>>>>>>>>> on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation
>>>>>>>>> macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros <emviveros at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime
>>>>>>>>>>> performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least
>>>>>>>>>>> low-latency kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in
>>>>>>>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with
>>>>>>>>>>> qtractor  DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have
>>>>>>>>>>> low-latency kernels preconfigured.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux
>>>>>>>>>>> Light.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is
>>>>>>>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more
>>>>>>>>>>>> powerful than soundflower...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoother in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on windows and once on OSX.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to tweak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absurdly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended
>>>>>>>>>>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoy the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular laptops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one") linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot  adapter works in Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'd be cool,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't comment on those.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lorenzo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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