[PD] Pd <-> Radium

András Murányi muranyia at gmail.com
Mon Sep 2 19:21:42 CEST 2013


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Kjetil Matheussen
<k.s.matheussen at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM, András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Kjetil Matheussen <
>> k.s.matheussen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:44 PM, András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Kjetil Matheussen <
>>>> k.s.matheussen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Slightly inspired by Max for Ableton live, I've added Pd for Radium
>>>>> (Radium homepage: http://www.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/)
>>>>>
>>>>> Screenshot: http://folk.uio.no/ksvalast/radiumpd.png
>>>>> Video: http://folk.uio.no/ksvalast/radium_pd.ogv
>>>>>
>>>>> It's basically got the same features as Max for Ableton, but I haven't
>>>>> implemented a modular note control system in Radium yet, so you can't,
>>>>> for instance, make an arpeggiator in Pd that controls other
>>>>> instruments.
>>>>> I will implement a modular note control system now though, because
>>>>> of Pd.
>>>>>
>>>>> But at least it's possible to use Pd to make sound effects and soft
>>>>> synths.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a bit rough yet, so I haven't released anything. You must build
>>>>> Radium
>>>>> from source to get it, for now. It probably also only works on Linux.
>>>>> I haven't tried  to compile on Windows or Osx yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> To access pd, I have used libpd, but upgraded it to support several
>>>>> instances, gui, and pd-extended:  https://github.com/kmatheussen/libpd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hello Kjetil,
>>>>
>>>> This is very interesting, thanks for sharing!
>>>>
>>>> When trying to add simple_midi_synth to the graph (? I don't know how
>>>> you call it), it seems it wants to load libs from the .pdextended settings
>>>> file even if pd-extended is not installed. When pd-extended is installed, I
>>>> get this error:
>>>> Unable to create libpds instance. Error message:
>>>> "/tmp/libpd_1378125318_83135_1571333196_bs94VC.so: undefined symbol:
>>>> _ZTI7GemBase".
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I wish I could use pd-l2ork from radium but I'm totally
>>>> unaware if it's pdlib-compatible and if it's possible at all...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi András,
>>>
>>> pd-extended is actually included in Radium, but I've only included the
>>> vanilla objects from the externals directory of it.
>>> From the error message you get, it seems like Gem should also be
>>> installed with Radium in order to run correctly.
>>>
>>> To solve this problem, though, you should only have to add the path to
>>> where the Gem externals are installed into ~/.pdextended.
>>> Alternatively, you could temporarily rename your ~/.pdextended file to
>>> something else when running radium, to avoid the dependency problem.
>>> It would also be useful to know the content of your ~/.pdextended file,
>>> to locate which externals you have that needs Gem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> When renamed .pdextended, the messages I'm getting are these:
>> no preferences file "/home/muranyia/.pdextended"
>> Unable to create libpds instance. Error message:
>> "/tmp/libpd_1378132431_561780_1846930686_cA3Sts.so: undefined symbol:
>> iemgui_select"
>>
>>
> Something else is wrong. iemgui_select is inside the pd source. Something
> may have gone wrong during compilation.
>
> Did you follow this procedure?:
>

yes i did (except the mkdir/cd temp stuff, plus I issued "export
BUILDTYPE=RELEASE").


>
> mkdir temp
> cd temp
> git clone https://github.com/kmatheussen/radium.git
> touch audio/*.cpp common/gfx_op_queue_generated.c
> common/visual_op_queue_proc.h
> make packages
> BUILDTYPE=RELEASE ./build_linux.sh -j7
> ./start.sh
>
> Can you also mail me privately the terminal output when running radium?
>
>
I will!

Thanks,

András
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