[PD] Help with OSX App minefield

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Mon Oct 21 20:12:03 CEST 2013

Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely.  It
will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is 64-bit.
Anything Carbon is dead, unless you're happy working with 10.6 and older.


On 10/09/2013 10:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Update-- I've got a working Pd-l2ork, tkpath based App running on
> OSX.  (No ppc support, unfortunately.)  Audio is running.
> Minefields:
> * I cannot for the life of me figure out how to build tkpath using the
> Tcl/tk Frameworks (Carbon-based) inside Pd-l2ork.app instead of the
> system ones. (Tried both Xcode and command line tools).  Anybody
> have hints for that?
> * I can't figure out how to build the externals in "extra".  If I do
> "make" the linker doesn't find any of the m_pd.h functions, even if
> I do the ugly hack of copying m_pd.h to the directory.
> * I'm abusing my function for returning the executable path in order
> to get Pd to look for doc/ and extra/ inside the App (in addition to
> the usual places on the system).  Is there a trick to this?
> * key presses/releases sometimes get stuck in one state or the other.
> I think there's some simple tcl/tk hack for ignoring autokeys that may
> remedy this, but I'm not sure yet.
> Best,
> Jonathan
> On 10/07/2013 04:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> Hello,
>>       I'm hoping some MacOSX gurus can help me traverse this mine-field.
>> What I'm trying to do:
>> Port Pd-l2ork (quick-and-dirty) to MacOSX in the form of a Pd-l2ork.app
>> Minefields:
>> * Pd-l2ork uses tkpath, which is built to work with Carbon and not Cocoa.  So I
>> must use tcl/tk Framework that uses Carbon instead of Cocoa.  That should be
>> ok because Pd-extended.app is currently set up to use Carbon.
>> * Pd-l2ork uses the old pd.tk framework instead of the newer stuff from the
>> gui-rewrite
>> What I've done so far:
>> * updated the configure file successfully
>> * made a workaround for statbuf from stat.h not existing on OSX (in s_main.c)
>> * made a workaround for RTLD not existing after ./configure and trying to
>> make (s_loader.c)
>> * successfully compiled Pd-l2ork
>> * checked that tkpath actually works on OSX.  It seems to work, using tcl/tk
>> w/Carbon
>> instead of Cocoa.
>> * used otool and install_name_tool to change libPdTcl.dylib libraries to
>> point at the
>> App's Framework directory instead of system directories
>> * changed AppMain.tcl to launch pd.tk instead of pd-gui (which it does
>> successfully)
>> What crashes so far:
>> * inside pd.tk, I'm trying to do this:
>>      load $pd_guidir/bin/libPdTcl.dylib
>> It finds the dylib fine but then it crashes, with the crash report
>> referencing the first line
>> of the following function of t_tkcmd.c in the backtrace:
>> int Pdtcl_Init(Tcl_Interp *interp)
>> {
>>      const char *argv = Tcl_GetVar(interp, "argv", 0);
>> ***
>> Any ideas where to begin to debug this?  Is there some code I can add to
>> Pdtcl_Init to print out some info I can use to tell where it's going wrong?
>> I put the full error log here:
>> http://pastebin.com/duHdRrsY
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>> -Jonathan
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