[PD] Help with OSX App minefield

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely.  It
>> will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is 64-bit.
>> Anything Carbon is dead, unless you're happy working with 10.6 and older.
> 
> I'm running Pd-extended and my Pd-l2ork port on 10.7.5.  Both link
> to the Carbon system libraries.  Both run.

Considering that Apple has dropped support even for some older 64-bit Macs, I
think using Carbon is surely a dead end.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/confirmed-mountain-lion-sends-some-64-bit-macs-gently-into-that-good-night/

.hc

> An update to the Pd-l2ork port:
> * figured out how to build tkpath against the Carbon stuff.  It runs fine now.
> * got some basic libraries compiled and installed to ship with the app.
> (zexy, hcs, cyclone, and a few others).
> * currently working on an issue with the Shift key "sticking"-- that is, if I
> do <Shift-RightArrow> to move an object by 10 pixels, when I release
> Shift and then do <RightArrow> it continues moving the object by
> 10 pixels instead of 1 pixel.  Once I fix that it should be usable.
> 
> Best,
> Jonathan
> 
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On 10/09/2013 10:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>> Update-- I've got a working Pd-l2ork, tkpath based App running on
>>> OSX.  (No ppc support, unfortunately.)  Audio is running.
>>>
>>> Minefields:
>>> * I cannot for the life of me figure out how to build tkpath using the
>>> Tcl/tk Frameworks (Carbon-based) inside Pd-l2ork.app instead of the
>>> system ones. (Tried both Xcode and command line tools).  Anybody
>>> have hints for that?
>>> * I can't figure out how to build the externals in "extra".  If I do
>>> "make" the linker doesn't find any of the m_pd.h functions, even if
>>> I do the ugly hack of copying m_pd.h to the directory.
>>> * I'm abusing my function for returning the executable path in order
>>> to get Pd to look for doc/ and extra/ inside the App (in addition to
>>> the usual places on the system).  Is there a trick to this?
>>> * key presses/releases sometimes get stuck in one state or the other.
>>> I think there's some simple tcl/tk hack for ignoring autokeys that may
>>> remedy this, but I'm not sure yet.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On 10/07/2013 04:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>        I'm hoping some MacOSX gurus can help me traverse this mine-field.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm trying to do:
>>>> Port Pd-l2ork (quick-and-dirty) to MacOSX in the form of a Pd-l2ork.app
>>>>
>>>> Minefields:
>>>> * Pd-l2ork uses tkpath, which is built to work with Carbon and not Cocoa. 
>>>> So I
>>>> must use tcl/tk Framework that uses Carbon instead of Cocoa.  That should be
>>>> ok because Pd-extended.app is currently set up to use Carbon.
>>>> * Pd-l2ork uses the old pd.tk framework instead of the newer stuff from the
>>>> gui-rewrite
>>>>
>>>> What I've done so far:
>>>> * updated the configure file successfully
>>>> * made a workaround for statbuf from stat.h not existing on OSX (in s_main.c)
>>>> * made a workaround for RTLD not existing after ./configure and trying to
>>>> make (s_loader.c)
>>>> * successfully compiled Pd-l2ork
>>>> * checked that tkpath actually works on OSX.  It seems to work, using tcl/tk
>>>> w/Carbon
>>>> instead of Cocoa.
>>>> * used otool and install_name_tool to change libPdTcl.dylib libraries to
>>>> point at the
>>>> App's Framework directory instead of system directories
>>>> * changed AppMain.tcl to launch pd.tk instead of pd-gui (which it does
>>>> successfully)
>>>>
>>>> What crashes so far:
>>>> * inside pd.tk, I'm trying to do this:
>>>>       load $pd_guidir/bin/libPdTcl.dylib
>>>> It finds the dylib fine but then it crashes, with the crash report
>>>> referencing the first line
>>>> of the following function of t_tkcmd.c in the backtrace:
>>>>
>>>> int Pdtcl_Init(Tcl_Interp *interp)
>>>> {
>>>>       const char *argv = Tcl_GetVar(interp, "argv", 0);
>>>>
>>>> ***
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas where to begin to debug this?  Is there some code I can add to
>>>> Pdtcl_Init to print out some info I can use to tell where it's going wrong?
>>>>
>>>> I put the full error log here:
>>>> http://pastebin.com/duHdRrsY
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
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