[PD] Help with OSX App minefield

[Jonathan Wilkes]

On 10/21/2013 11:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely.  It
>>> will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is 64-bit.
>>> Anything Carbon is dead, unless you're happy working with 10.6 and older.
>> I'm running Pd-extended and my Pd-l2ork port on 10.7.5.  Both link
>> to the Carbon system libraries.  Both run.
> Considering that Apple has dropped support even for some older 64-bit Macs, I
> think using Carbon is surely a dead end.
>
> http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/confirmed-mountain-lion-sends-some-64-bit-macs-gently-into-that-good-night/

What is the relevance of what you've written and linked to?

When I have time to look at what's required to get tkpath to use
the updated tkMac headers found in newer versions of tcl/tk, I'll do it.
Meanwhile people will have a working version of Pd-l2ork on OSX
to play with.

-Jonathan

>
> .hc
>
>> An update to the Pd-l2ork port:
>> * figured out how to build tkpath against the Carbon stuff.  It runs fine now.
>> * got some basic libraries compiled and installed to ship with the app.
>> (zexy, hcs, cyclone, and a few others).
>> * currently working on an issue with the Shift key "sticking"-- that is, if I
>> do <Shift-RightArrow> to move an object by 10 pixels, when I release
>> Shift and then do <RightArrow> it continues moving the object by
>> 10 pixels instead of 1 pixel.  Once I fix that it should be usable.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jonathan
>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>> On 10/09/2013 10:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>> Update-- I've got a working Pd-l2ork, tkpath based App running on
>>>> OSX.  (No ppc support, unfortunately.)  Audio is running.
>>>>
>>>> Minefields:
>>>> * I cannot for the life of me figure out how to build tkpath using the
>>>> Tcl/tk Frameworks (Carbon-based) inside Pd-l2ork.app instead of the
>>>> system ones. (Tried both Xcode and command line tools).  Anybody
>>>> have hints for that?
>>>> * I can't figure out how to build the externals in "extra".  If I do
>>>> "make" the linker doesn't find any of the m_pd.h functions, even if
>>>> I do the ugly hack of copying m_pd.h to the directory.
>>>> * I'm abusing my function for returning the executable path in order
>>>> to get Pd to look for doc/ and extra/ inside the App (in addition to
>>>> the usual places on the system).  Is there a trick to this?
>>>> * key presses/releases sometimes get stuck in one state or the other.
>>>> I think there's some simple tcl/tk hack for ignoring autokeys that may
>>>> remedy this, but I'm not sure yet.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> On 10/07/2013 04:05 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>         I'm hoping some MacOSX gurus can help me traverse this mine-field.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'm trying to do:
>>>>> Port Pd-l2ork (quick-and-dirty) to MacOSX in the form of a Pd-l2ork.app
>>>>>
>>>>> Minefields:
>>>>> * Pd-l2ork uses tkpath, which is built to work with Carbon and not Cocoa.
>>>>> So I
>>>>> must use tcl/tk Framework that uses Carbon instead of Cocoa.  That should be
>>>>> ok because Pd-extended.app is currently set up to use Carbon.
>>>>> * Pd-l2ork uses the old pd.tk framework instead of the newer stuff from the
>>>>> gui-rewrite
>>>>>
>>>>> What I've done so far:
>>>>> * updated the configure file successfully
>>>>> * made a workaround for statbuf from stat.h not existing on OSX (in s_main.c)
>>>>> * made a workaround for RTLD not existing after ./configure and trying to
>>>>> make (s_loader.c)
>>>>> * successfully compiled Pd-l2ork
>>>>> * checked that tkpath actually works on OSX.  It seems to work, using tcl/tk
>>>>> w/Carbon
>>>>> instead of Cocoa.
>>>>> * used otool and install_name_tool to change libPdTcl.dylib libraries to
>>>>> point at the
>>>>> App's Framework directory instead of system directories
>>>>> * changed AppMain.tcl to launch pd.tk instead of pd-gui (which it does
>>>>> successfully)
>>>>>
>>>>> What crashes so far:
>>>>> * inside pd.tk, I'm trying to do this:
>>>>>        load $pd_guidir/bin/libPdTcl.dylib
>>>>> It finds the dylib fine but then it crashes, with the crash report
>>>>> referencing the first line
>>>>> of the following function of t_tkcmd.c in the backtrace:
>>>>>
>>>>> int Pdtcl_Init(Tcl_Interp *interp)
>>>>> {
>>>>>        const char *argv = Tcl_GetVar(interp, "argv", 0);
>>>>>
>>>>> ***
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas where to begin to debug this?  Is there some code I can add to
>>>>> Pdtcl_Init to print out some info I can use to tell where it's going wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> I put the full error log here:
>>>>> http://pastebin.com/duHdRrsY
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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