[PD] Building externals on OSX

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 22 19:14:41 CEST 2013

On 10/21/2013 09:38 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> Errr. That's not so easy. You need the 10.5 SDK which you can only get 
> with a *really* old version of Xcode which you probably can't install 
> on anything newer than OSX 10.6. It's possible to put older SDK's 
> themselves into the "right place" but, for something as old as the 
> 10.5 SDK, it may not even work anymore. The only reliabel way to use 
> an old machine with 10.5 or 10.6 and an old version of Xcode, probably 
> Xcode 3.something.
> IMHO, at this point, it's best to drop support for PPC for new 
> versions of pd. The *vast vast vast* majority of OSX users have moved 
> on at this point.

Just to make sure I understand: if someone has an old PPC Mac, they cannot
run stuff compiled for i386 or x86_64.  There is no compatibility-mode 
or anything
they can use to run the software.  Is this correct?

Also, do you have any references for the claim that the vast majority of OSX
users have moved away from PPC?  I find Jobs' claim that Apple doesn't ship
junk to generally be true, and combined with their development model the
unfortunate result would seem to be that poor people still using their once
sleek and sexy devices are ignored along with their now ugly, unprofitable


> On Oct 21, 2013, at 9:12 PM, pd-list-request at iem.at 
> <mailto:pd-list-request at iem.at> wrote:
>> *From:*Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com <mailto:jancsika at yahoo.com>>
>> *Subject:**Re: [PD] Building externals on OSX*
>> *Date:*October 21, 2013 4:20:55 PM EDT
>> *To:*pd-list at iem.at <mailto:pd-list at iem.at>
>> On 10/21/2013 02:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>> That sounds like you're building pd/extra from Pd-vanilla.  I never 
>>> had any
>>> luck with that build system.  That's part of the reason why I ripped 
>>> out extra
>>> from Pd-extended and made it a standalone library.  It was much 
>>> easier to make
>>> it work that way.
>> Figured this one out, too.  It was a problem of building 64 bit 
>> binaries-- I just
>> ended up building for i386 and the problem went away.
>> If I'm going to go to the trouble of building for both architectures, 
>> then I
>> might as well go ahead and build ppc, too.  So the real solution would be
>> for me to remove my current xcode setup and read all the stackoverflow
>> workarounds telling which older XCode version to setup an environment
>> that supports building for ppc.
>> -Jonathan
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